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  1. #31

    Re: Sure his stats suck, but remember, Joe's a winner.



    Quote Originally Posted by arnie_uk View Post
    Their wideouts are constantly open. I think Brady only attempted two passes more than 10 yards in the year
    Brady's not a product of their system, but he is a beneficiary of it.
    The precision of the timing and execution of the receivers on those screens and rubs today, for example, meshes perfectly with Brady's precision with his own timing and accuracy.

    Brady's only 50% of that passing offense, the receivers are the other half.




  2. #32

    Re: Sure his stats suck, but remember, Joe's a winner.

    For such a predictable , simple routes and scheme offense, it is the most disorganized offense I've seen the past few years.




  3. #33

    Re: Sure his stats suck, but remember, Joe's a winner.





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    Re: Sure his stats suck, but remember, Joe's a winner.

    Joe is the least of our issues. With the right OC and personnel around him he has already proven he can go all the way.

    Top Priorities In Offseason for the Offense

    Bring in a dynamic and creative offensive mind to be OC. I would like to see a new DC coordinator but given the option of one or the other....clearly I think OC is a priority IMO

    Acquire (Draft/Trade/FA) better OLine talent especially at LT (resign Monroe?)RT and C (Thinking young T that could shift to LT later and Vet C to compete?)

    Brown, Pitta, Torrey are the foundation of the receiving core I would keep. Everyone else can go. I love JJ but his value to this team as a WR is IMO limited by the fact you have Torrey Smith. Dickson is to erratic. Doss I would potentially keep if JJ is gone for insurance. Brown has upside but I think this offense needs one more guy who can move the chains, a possession receiver who get separation and make plays that keep drives alive (Amaro is TE that comes to mind in the draft)
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  5. #35

    Re: Sure his stats suck, but remember, Joe's a winner.

    Quote Originally Posted by Bmorravens1 View Post
    Lets get it out there Joe is not Payton or Tom. He makes more bad decisions then they do but with that being said. He has a great arm , has shown flashes of brilliance and is understanding this year the need to be more mobile.
    As an organization they need to help him by:
    Creating better schemes were we have wide reicievers running open ( Those little rubs the patriots ran were nice)
    Better play calling -less predictability
    Offensive lineman who can actually block ( The play where Joe got hurt Shipley threw the guy into him)
    A qualified QB coach who can work with Joe
    Joe is an above average QB who has a penance for winning.
    My feeling is Caldwell has came as far as he can in Baltimore and we need to be better
    This is fucking stupid and I'm tired of reading the same rhetoric over and over. What do you mean Joe isn't Peyton or Brady? He's a Super Bowl MVP who carried his team to a championship. The only reason Flacco doesn't put up number like them is because our coaching staff sucks. As many people have pointed out we're too predictable and just pathetic on offense. No creativity no nothing. I mean if I can sit at home and predict 10 straight Ravens offensive plays something is really wrong.




  6. #36

    Re: Sure his stats suck, but remember, Joe's a winner.

    Baltimore groan.





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    Re: Sure his stats suck, but remember, Joe's a winner.

    Quote Originally Posted by mrfactoid View Post
    For such a predictable , simple routes and scheme offense, it is the most disorganized offense I've seen the past few years.
    so true. If you are going to be so rigid and simple...at least be perfect at it.




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    Re: Sure his stats suck, but remember, Joe's a winner.

    Quote Originally Posted by ravenray View Post
    very true. look at fucking Edelmann, he is about to catch 100 passes. No way he is close to 50 is he plays in this offense.
    In this offense he would sitting on the bench picking his nose because nobody on that coaching staff would have a clue how to creatively use him.

    This is the worst coached offense in the NFL. It is not an offense devoid of talent yet it consistently gets underwhelming results even when it is productive. I watch a ton of football and I can honestly say I there is no other team that I watch that week to week consistently has as many negative running plays as we do. Slants, quick hits, effective screens and other creative plays seem to be taboo round these parts. Its time to dump the entire staff and bring in a younger more dynamic coach who is willing to be creative and utilize the strengths we have.
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    Re: Sure his stats suck, but remember, Joe's a winner.

    Quote Originally Posted by Spider Webb View Post
    This is fucking stupid and I'm tired of reading the same rhetoric over and over. What do you mean Joe isn't Peyton or Brady? He's a Super Bowl MVP who carried his team to a championship. The only reason Flacco doesn't put up number like them is because our coaching staff sucks. As many people have pointed out we're too predictable and just pathetic on offense. No creativity no nothing. I mean if I can sit at home and predict 10 straight Ravens offensive plays something is really wrong.
    Exactly.

    If I can predict the playcalls then you sure as hell know that Billacheat can.

    This is the NFL. If your predictable and unable to adjust you have just done half of the opposing defensive coordinators job for him
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    Re: Sure his stats suck, but remember, Joe's a winner.

    Quote Originally Posted by callahan09 View Post
    This bullshit game had absolutely nothing to do with Joe Flacco. This was the worst display of NFL coaching I have ever witnessed. We didn't game plan well, we called horrible plays, we didn't prepare Joe or the offense to deal effectively with his injury, we don't call plays that help mitigate the injury and get the offense into a rhythm, we called way too many routes that took forever to develop and the line just can't hold protection for 4+ seconds. We don't have an offensive coordinator who has drawn up any easy plays for this offense. They don't respond to situations effectively. Everything about this loss falls squarely on the shoulders of the coaches who totally failed to prepare this team to play the kind of game needed to beat the opponent we faced.
    Come on now. Joe was awful today. He's not the reason why we lost, but it's foolish to say this game had nothing to do with Flacco.

    The entire team sucked today.




  11. #41

    Re: Sure his stats suck, but remember, Joe's a winner.

    The guy has what? 20 INT's not that I'm blaming him for today butit wasn't a good showing. Look,you can only run the same patterns so many times in the courseof a year before everyone knows your game plan. There are no changes just the same vanilla crap run out there game,after game,after game. I wouldn't even call it vanilla that has a flavor.




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    Re: Sure his stats suck, but remember, Joe's a winner.

    We lost. To cite Joe as the *sole* reason is disingenuous at best and trolling at worst. The Patriots really didn't do anything but let Ron Winter's crew help them and play regular football. The Ravens couldn't even do that. I hope every one of those guys in that locker room tonight makes a promise to themselves to never play like that again.




  13. #43

    Re: Sure his stats suck, but remember, Joe's a winner.

    Hear ye, hear ye... is it only posts that can go to Ye Olde Trash Heap?




  14. #44

    Re: Sure his stats suck, but remember, Joe's a winner.

    No, its not "soley" Joe. But when you score 1 TD in 2 games and have been blanked 3-4 times in the first half this year he's going to take a lot of blame for it, just like all the credit he gets for winning the SB. It goes both ways as much as some here don't want to hear that.




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    Re: Sure his stats suck, but remember, Joe's a winner.

    Quote Originally Posted by KbubbaK View Post
    Joe's luck has finally run out. Now we're stuck with a $120 million mediocre quarterback.
    OK, so what would your plan have been? According to you we don't sign Flacco, now what?




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