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    WRs ....the 2014 version



    Welp...here we are again


    Remember when some foolishly optimistic dumb-ass said this?

    Quote Originally Posted by BigPlayReceiver View Post
    Oh...and I guess that I should hope that our WR threads are few and far-between for 2014, b/c Torrey has pulled down something like 80 for 1200, Pitta grabbed the lion's share of Boldin's 2012 targets, and DT has become a better than expected complement on the backside or in the slot.
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    Mentioning PSU's Allen Robinson first, not b/c he's my top guy, but b/c a comparison (or "comp", going forward) immediately came to mind: Keenan Allen.

    Nevermind, their mirrored names, they share incredibly similar college systems, physical builds and YAC dynamism.

    See http://draftbreakdown.com/players/?position=WR for per target cut-ups.


    And oh...Keenan is rocking a 50 of 72 for 737 and 3 TDs. That's a 69% catch rate and 14.7 YPC. However, his YAC/Rec is only a middle-of-the-road 5.4 (SEA's Tate lead the NFL with 8.7). So it seems like he will have success in an NFL offense that's far beyond the hitch and slant heavy offense that he had at Cal. Of course, having a real QB helps too. Whatever the case, he's providing excellent 3rd round value and is actually SD's #1 WR due to multiple injuries at the position (Floyd, Alexander).

    *pats self on back*


    Back to Robinson...has anyone watched a lot of him yet?
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    From what I've seen, he is intriguing. Maybe as a mid 2nd rounder. Keenan Allen is a good conparison.

    What I like about his is he is a hands catcher, even in cold weather. I think when you play in an outdoor stadium in the north east then that is something that should be considered.


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    I am very very very very high on Odell Beckham

    very high




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    Quote Originally Posted by leachisabeast View Post
    I am very very very very high on Odell Beckham

    very high
    Same here.


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    I very much like the fact that a WR the caliber of PSU's Allen Robinson will probably be available in the second and perhaps even third round.




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    Big fan of Beckham as well.

    I'm very very high on this WR class. I'd be disappointed if Ozzie & Co. don't draft more than one.




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    Another guy I like maybe in the 3rd is Davante Adams out of Fresno State.

    He reminds me of a poor mans Justin Blackmon


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    I really like Jordan Matthews out of Vanderbilt. Guy has good size, nice hands and concentration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OhThePossibilities View Post
    I really like Jordan Matthews out of Vanderbilt. Guy has good size, nice hands and concentration.

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    He's good.

    Reminds me of Jordy Nelson.


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    Quote Originally Posted by OhThePossibilities View Post
    I really like Jordan Matthews out of Vanderbilt. Guy has good size, nice hands and concentration.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raveninwoodlawn View Post
    He's good.

    Reminds me of Jordy Nelson.


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    I've been high on him since last year.

    That kind of production in the SEC with crap QB play should not go overlooked whatsoever.
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    Re: WRs ....the 2014 version

    Right now I drank my top 5 like this:

    Mike Evans
    Sammy Watkins
    Jordan Matthews
    Marqise Lee
    Odell Beckham Jr

    I'd prob follow that group up with Brandin Cooks, Jarvis Landry and maybe Cody Hoffman.

    I really like the LSU boys. I wasn't super high on either of them, but they're flat out play makers.


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    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    Right now I drank my top 5 like this:

    Mike Evans
    Sammy Watkins
    Jordan Matthews
    Marqise Lee
    Odell Beckham Jr

    I'd prob follow that group up with Brandin Cooks, Jarvis Landry and maybe Cody Hoffman.

    I really like the LSU boys. I wasn't super high on either of them, but they're flat out play makers.


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    For me, I'd flip the first 2 and I still have Lee above Mathews. I'd change the order some, but I agree with the players you have there.

    I don't think we'd have any shot at Watkins at this point. I think he'll be the only WR to go in the top 10.

    We may have a shot at Evans in the 10-20 range depending on where we pick, how he runs. He probably will either be there if we don't make the playoffs, or within trade range (which I'd do if I were Ozzie provided the price isn't too high) if we are out in the playoffs quick.

    I think Lee is a late first so he'd probably be there if we wanted him.

    Mathews and Beckham probably are early to mid second rounders.

    Where do you see them going Wicked?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Raveninwoodlawn View Post
    For me, I'd flip the first 2 and I still have Lee above Mathews. I'd change the order some, but I agree with the players you have there.

    I don't think we'd have any shot at Watkins at this point. I think he'll be the only WR to go in the top 10.

    We may have a shot at Evans in the 10-20 range depending on where we pick, how he runs. He probably will either be there if we don't make the playoffs, or within trade range (which I'd do if I were Ozzie provided the price isn't too high) if we are out in the playoffs quick.

    I think Lee is a late first so he'd probably be there if we wanted him.

    Mathews and Beckham probably are early to mid second rounders.

    Where do you see them going Wicked?


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    For me, it's Sammy Watkins and Mike Evans as the surefire 1st rounders. After them, Marqise Lee, Brandin Cooks, Davante Adams, and Allen Robinson are all late 1st/early 2nd round type guys. I'm not as high on the LSU guys or Jordan Matthews.

    IMO a 1st round receiver has to either A) have a very special, game-breaking element to his game, or B) be very, very pro ready right out of the gate. Examples of A's are AJ Green (special body control and fluidity for his size) or Percy Harvin (special physicality and ability with the ball in his hands). Examples of B's are DeAndre Hopkins or Santonio Holmes.

    I would be happy with Watkins, Evans, Lee, or Cooks in the 1st. All of those guys are A's, but Watkins is special because he's also a B--his route running and release off the line are already NFL quality, which are very unusual qualities in a college prospect. Evans, for example, is not a route runner at this point in his development, but he's still an A type receiver worthy of a 1st. Same for Lee and Cooks, who are really similar players, both of them more Percy Harvin types.




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    Quote Originally Posted by bmorecareful View Post
    For me, it's Sammy Watkins and Mike Evans as the surefire 1st rounders. After them, Marqise Lee, Brandin Cooks, Davante Adams, and Allen Robinson are all late 1st/early 2nd round type guys. I'm not as high on the LSU guys or Jordan Matthews.

    IMO a 1st round receiver has to either A) have a very special, game-breaking element to his game, or B) be very, very pro ready right out of the gate. Examples of A's are AJ Green (special body control and fluidity for his size) or Percy Harvin (special physicality and ability with the ball in his hands). Examples of B's are DeAndre Hopkins or Santonio Holmes.

    I would be happy with Watkins, Evans, Lee, or Cooks in the 1st. All of those guys are A's, but Watkins is special because he's also a B--his route running and release off the line are already NFL quality, which are very unusual qualities in a college prospect. Evans, for example, is not a route runner at this point in his development, but he's still an A type receiver worthy of a 1st. Same for Lee and Cooks, who are really similar players, both of them more Percy Harvin types.
    I hear you. There are just naturally going to be a difference of opinions on them after the first 3...Watkins, Evans and Lee.


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