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    Re: Who Are the Best Deep Passers in the League? (The Flacco Enigma)



    Just because you can throw a ball hard and far doesn't mean you throw a great deep ball. I can't remember the last time Joe hit a long ball with the receiver in stride. Joes had ample tries at the long ball with plenty of time to throw. He is no better than any other QB in the league throwing it deep. With that said, Our receivers are soft and not aggressive going for jump balls unlike Boldin last year. Without Boldin going and getting the ball I highly doubt we beat DEN. in the playoffs. Joe can't put the ball on the money with deep throws.




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    Re: Who Are the Best Deep Passers in the League? (The Flacco Enigma)

    Quote Originally Posted by seraph View Post
    Arm strength isn't the only thing that matters when throwing deep. There are other aspects of arm talent that people don't acknowledge. Flacco might have top 5 velocity but the rest of his arm talent isn't that impressive.
    Can anyone recall Flacco actually completing a long pass, hitting the receiver in stride. To me, his passes have so much arch on them, the receiver has to stop or jump for the ball. Can't recall him hitting the receiver accurately without the receiver stopping or changing course.




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    Re: Who Are the Best Deep Passers in the League? (The Flacco Enigma)

    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenswintitle View Post
    two 1,000 yard receivers this year. that 1970's offense is still tough to stop
    College. Football.

    When was the last Cam offense in the NFL that produced multiple 1,000 yard receivers?


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    Re: Who Are the Best Deep Passers in the League? (The Flacco Enigma)

    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    College. Football.

    When was the last Cam offense in the NFL that produced multiple 1,000 yard receivers?


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    It's ten times better than the ugliness we're getting from Caldwell

    college or pro. Crossing routes, slants, wheel routes and running the ball with the fullback to keep the play action working. It's proven.
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    Re: Who Are the Best Deep Passers in the League? (The Flacco Enigma)

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    4. You need time in the pocket to throw an accurate deep ball. The O line hasn't been giving him the time.
    This.

    Not only that, but the only player that can actually (consistently) get the deep ball is Torrey. He isn't running a lot of those routes this year either. He is running a lot of underneath stuff out of necessity.


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    Re: Who Are the Best Deep Passers in the League? (The Flacco Enigma)

    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenswintitle View Post
    It's ten times better than the ugliness we're getting from Caldwell

    college or pro. Crossing routes, slants, wheel routes and running the ball with the fullback to keep the play action working. It's proven.
    The only thing that is proven is when your OL can't pass block or run block, nothing works.


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    Re: Who Are the Best Deep Passers in the League? (The Flacco Enigma)

    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    The only thing that is proven is when your OL can't pass block or run block, nothing works.


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    Some of you make it sound like every single time Joe drops back to pass like a couple hundred times that he as no time to pass. Come on now, Just throwing out "he has no time" to pass is BS. Joe is Joe just remove the 4 games from the playoffs last year. He got hot and had some luck but what you see is Joe the other 80 or so games hes played. Its not hard to see.




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    Re: Who Are the Best Deep Passers in the League? (The Flacco Enigma)

    Quote Originally Posted by mrfactoid View Post
    Some of you make it sound like every single time Joe drops back to pass like a couple hundred times that he as no time to pass. Come on now, Just throwing out "he has no time" to pass is BS. Joe is Joe just remove the 4 games from the playoffs last year. He got hot and had some luck but what you see is Joe the other 80 or so games hes played. Its not hard to see.




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    Re: Who Are the Best Deep Passers in the League? (The Flacco Enigma)

    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenswintitle View Post
    I don't know what happened to you Wicked, you used to be an objective poster but you've become very defensive. Hope things are OK
    I don't see how that isn't an objective statement or observation at all?

    I'm sorry if you think it was defensive, it wasn't meant to be.

    Cam was an offensive coordinator in the NFL for something like 10 years. The only thing his offense was truly good for was producing a really dynamic running game. The best a wide receiver ever did in Cam's offense was Derrick Mason.

    I just don't think we can look at what Cam is doing in college and go "man, really wish we still had him!" I mean, are you or is anyone here really surprised that Cam's offense is working well in college? I'm not. It's college! Matt Leinart was a Heisman Trophy winner in college. Especially considering that LSU is loaded with talent and plays a lot of inferior teams.

    I'm as frustrated as anyone with the Ravens and their offense, but Cam probably wouldn't have fared much better with the serious lack of talent they currently have on the roster.



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    Re: Who Are the Best Deep Passers in the League? (The Flacco Enigma)

    Quote Originally Posted by mrfactoid View Post
    Some of you make it sound like every single time Joe drops back to pass like a couple hundred times that he as no time to pass. Come on now, Just throwing out "he has no time" to pass is BS. Joe is Joe just remove the 4 games from the playoffs last year. He got hot and had some luck but what you see is Joe the other 80 or so games hes played. Its not hard to see.
    Especially if you're looking for a reason to hate you some Flacco, right?


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    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    Especially if you're looking for a reason to hate you some Flacco, right?


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    Re: Who Are the Best Deep Passers in the League? (The Flacco Enigma)

    Quote Originally Posted by lovefootball View Post
    Can anyone recall Flacco actually completing a long pass, hitting the receiver in stride. To me, his passes have so much arch on them, the receiver has to stop or jump for the ball. Can't recall him hitting the receiver accurately without the receiver stopping or changing course.
    Twice today he did.
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    Re: Who Are the Best Deep Passers in the League? (The Flacco Enigma)

    Quote Originally Posted by lovefootball View Post
    Can anyone recall Flacco actually completing a long pass, hitting the receiver in stride. To me, his passes have so much arch on them, the receiver has to stop or jump for the ball. Can't recall him hitting the receiver accurately without the receiver stopping or changing course.
    Nope. It's literally never happened.




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