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    Re: Should Tyrod Taylor be included more often?



    Quote Originally Posted by iggyman555 View Post
    i dont see anything wrong with his statement its pretty legit and lot of folks on this board agree.
    I'm not surprised that you don't.
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    Re: Should Tyrod Taylor be included more often?

    Quote Originally Posted by JAB1985 View Post
    are we talking about the wildcat? thats so 2010...

    Im not in favor of putting our backup QB out there as a WR/RB/Or anything. If he were good enough to be one of those positions, hed be playing it full time, in which case id be for it. Hes not the WR Doss/Brown/thompson are. Hes not the RB Rice or Pierce are. Hes not the QB that Flacco is. So what are we gaining?

    if were talking 1-2 plays... early downs... id still say its a waste of time for a gimmick. Tyrod isnt a top 5 skill player on this team. were not even getting our top players in positions to make plays and now we think going deeper down the depth pool is going to improve our chances? highly unlikely.

    if we lose 1 of the next 3.... sure throw him in there. seasons likely over anyway.
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    Re: Should Tyrod Taylor be included more often?

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeWedra View Post
    In my personal opinion, I'd like to see Tyrod more often!!

    Thoughts??

    Wrote this up earlier: http://russellstreetreport.com/raven...e-taylor-made/
    I agree. The offense if struggluing this year so why not throw some new stuff in to try and throw off defenses. Besides, I don't know why all teams don't add in the 2nd string on a few plays. If your 1st string goes down you have to live with this guy, so why not get him a few reps to keep him involved. I'm sure Green Bay wishes they did this. But I do get the argument that you only get so many possessions and that could throw things off.




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    Taylor? Maybe. That's certainly an option. But I'd rather see them just diversify things a little bit. It's become largely either 1) inside hand-off from the gun, or 2) drop looking to throw medium to long. My gut feeling... Caldwell's turned this offense in to something resembling the Colts offense with Peyton... except (love him as I do) Joe isn't Peyton, and this line isn't that line. For the love of God, throw in some misdirection pitches, some end-arounds, some quick WR screens, a shovel pass here and there, a few RB screens. Maybe a halfback option, even if you're 98% likely to wing it out of bounds, just to make DBs and LBs realize that they can't sell out right away. Don't get me wrong, I get that the O-line is flawed... but the offense is SO vanilla right now... SO predictable... it's brutal to watch at times. You pretty much NEVER see defenders get caught out of position, because they can read the play quickly off the snap and have NO hesitation. There's no half-second delay to see if something "different" transpires.




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    Re: Should Tyrod Taylor be included more often?

    Quote Originally Posted by JAB1985 View Post
    are we talking about the wildcat? thats so 2010...
    Agreed. The read option now seems so 2012 as teams are learning to defend it. But as the Steelers did to us, I like a few wild cat/read option plays at their disposal. If the offense was clicking I'd say no, but the offense is sputtering.




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    If Tyrod can catch and take a bubble screen or inside combo route for 20-30 yards then I'm all for it.
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    We may see some wildcat from the Jets this weekend. When Buffalo ran it, it was effective. When your QB is struggling and the offense overall, why not throw in a few plays to surprise the defense and give them something else to defend. Sure beats what we're getting from this offense.

    yes.

    I'd also like them to bring in a legitimate backup QB in the offseason, just in case.
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    Re: Should Tyrod Taylor be included more often?

    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    I'm not surprised that you don't.
    im not surprised you cant think outside the box




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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenswintitle View Post
    We may see some wildcat from the Jets this weekend. When Buffalo ran it, it was effective. When your QB is struggling and the offense overall, why not throw in a few plays to surprise the defense and give them something else to defend. Sure beats what we're getting from this offense.

    yes.

    I'd also like them to bring in a legitimate backup QB in the offseason, just in case.


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    Re: Should Tyrod Taylor be included more often?

    Quote Originally Posted by iggyman555 View Post
    im not surprised you cant think outside the box
    Going with a dual-QB scenario, which is what it seems some are advocating, is not thinking outside of the box. That's just flat out being dumb. What team has ever run a dual-QB scenario and been successful? I'll save you the trouble of researching that one: the answer would be zero.

    If the offensive coaches want to think outside of the box, then they should reinstitute out routes, come backs and back shoulder throws. Better yet, how about they throw in a few blitz-beating pass plays? That way Flacco isn't constantly staring at a free-runner while waiting for his receivers to break into their routes 10 yards down the field.

    Right now, most of their throws are going to the middle of the field, which works in favor of the defenses because they're stacking the box and then dropping into shallow zones.

    Flacco has been bad at times, but the overall offensive scheme has been just really unintelligent.
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    Our offensive Coordinator has changed, our scheme has not, which i feel some thought would be the case with Caldwell. Its even more evident how ridiculously dated our scheme is. It takes advantage of Joes big arm and a receiving RB like Rice. Otherwise it pretty much hurts our team across the board in every other aspect.
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    Re: Should Tyrod Taylor be included more often?

    There is so much frustration on this board.
    It is so difficult to watch our Ravens sometimes...ok, seemingly all the time right now.

    I would say we are all trying to come up with ideas that we think would help them....I know, I'm one of them.
    Their line is in so much disarray...and the positive game against the Bears cannot be seen at this moment as a change, but an ok showing against a bad Bear run defense. We were supposed to be able to run on them.

    But we better find ways to move the ball or this season will be over sunday.
    The Jets have a very good front four.
    They try to play good defense and run the ball. That is their formula. Sound familiar?
    Well, we have a decent defense which is tied for 8th in points against.
    So we need to move the ball inspite of our Oline woes.
    I am not against Tyrod coming in and making a play or two, or coming in and causing a diversion.

    We have seen it time and time again, one play, two plays, can make the difference between winning and losing for this team.
    You can bring him in to run a play and you can bring him into the same backfield with Joe.
    And frankly, forget how the money was spent.
    What a good coach does, is figure out how best to use his players...to get the best out of them and put them in the best position to succeed...for the team.




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    Re: Should Tyrod Taylor be included more often?

    Quote Originally Posted by JAB1985 View Post
    Our offensive Coordinator has changed, our scheme has not, which i feel some thought would be the case with Caldwell. Its even more evident how ridiculously dated our scheme is. It takes advantage of Joes big arm and a receiving RB like Rice. Otherwise it pretty much hurts our team across the board in every other aspect.
    It isn't even taking advantage of Joe's ability to throw the deep ball.

    How many deep passes have they attempted? Maybe 10? Probably less than that. How many have they connected on? 2 or 3?

    I don't get the game plan because most defenses the Ravens are facing are stacking the box and when they aren't blitzing the shit out of Joe they are dropping into shallow coverage. I've re-watched a couple of games and it is pretty glaring how open the sidelines are 8-15 yards away from the line of scrimmage on a lot of passing downs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    It isn't even taking advantage of Joe's ability to throw the deep ball.

    How many deep passes have they attempted? Maybe 10? Probably less than that. How many have they connected on? 2 or 3?

    I don't get the game plan because most defenses the Ravens are facing are stacking the box and when they aren't blitzing the shit out of Joe they are dropping into shallow coverage. I've re-watched a couple of games and it is pretty glaring how open the sidelines are 8-15 yards away from the line of scrimmage on a lot of passing downs.
    thats whats worse... we have the same scheme but were not even taking the shots down field, with regularity or success of years past to actually make it function and get those guys out of the box.

    New Coordinator, New Scheme are going to be big priorities this offseason. Id expect them all to be fired (or let go). Seems like a harbaugh move, mediocrity will not be tolerated.
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    Re: Should Tyrod Taylor be included more often?

    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    Going with a dual-QB scenario, which is what it seems some are advocating, is not thinking outside of the box. That's just flat out being dumb. What team has ever run a dual-QB scenario and been successful? I'll save you the trouble of researching that one: the answer would be zero.

    If the offensive coaches want to think outside of the box, then they should reinstitute out routes, come backs and back shoulder throws. Better yet, how about they throw in a few blitz-beating pass plays? That way Flacco isn't constantly staring at a free-runner while waiting for his receivers to break into their routes 10 yards down the field.

    Right now, most of their throws are going to the middle of the field, which works in favor of the defenses because they're stacking the box and then dropping into shallow zones.

    Flacco has been bad at times, but the overall offensive scheme has been just really unintelligent.
    lol putting tyrod in for a handful plays is not dual-QB scenario LMAO he can even be used as a decoy for those plays...




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