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    Should Tyrod Taylor be included more often?



    In my personal opinion, I'd like to see Tyrod more often!!

    Thoughts??

    Wrote this up earlier: http://russellstreetreport.com/raven...e-taylor-made/




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    Re: Should Tyrod Taylor be included more often?

    Anything new is worth a try, because the current schemes and QB effort are not getting the job done. In every loss since Denver, the defense has given up less than 21 points. The offense is giving away more points than is allowed.
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    Re: Should Tyrod Taylor be included more often?

    Being an automotive guy when I hear the name Tyrod I always wanna give him a few turns to set the toe on the alignment rack.

    I think Joe is way overdue for a breakout day.

    (pardon me guys, I'm on vacation this week and my team is on a bye week)
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    Re: Should Tyrod Taylor be included more often?

    No.

    The league is littered with great college players who don't pan out as starters. Just because he had success at Va Tech or had fast 40 times doesn't mean he'd have success in the pros. To put it simply, if he was a pro athlete, someone would have made a trade offer.

    The league figured out the Wildcat in 2010. No need for gimmicks. It's an off year and the problem is glaring -- the offensive line.
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    Re: Should Tyrod Taylor be included more often?

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    No.

    The league is littered with great college players who don't pan out as starters. Just because he had success at Va Tech or had fast 40 times doesn't mean he'd have success in the pros. To put it simply, if he was a pro athlete, someone would have made a trade offer.

    The league figured out the Wildcat in 2010. No need for gimmicks. It's an off year and the problem is glaring -- the offensive line.
    Not as a starter. Change of pace guy.




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    Quote Originally Posted by JoeWedra View Post
    Not as a starter. Change of pace guy.
    Hard to do that with Bell Cow QB's these days. Most starting QB's have a strong ego and consider themselves the leader on offense for better or worse. When you do that you always undermine the QB slightly. I can't think of too many instances where it has worked.
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    Re: Should Tyrod Taylor be included more often?

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeWedra View Post
    In my personal opinion, I'd like to see Tyrod more often!!
    Thoughts??
    Included more often? How about 'included at all'? IIRC his only play this year was the 18 yard run. Otherwise, he's picking splinters out of his @$$. On a team that's offensively challenged, perhaps the great coaching minds can figure out some way to use this guy.
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    Re: Should Tyrod Taylor be included more often?

    Flacco doesn't seem like an ego. I think he would have no problem, but always possible.

    Remember, Joe doesn't have to come off the field for Taylor to come in.




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    Should Tyrod Taylor be included more often?

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeWedra View Post
    Not as a starter. Change of pace guy.
    I understand that.

    He's not being used more for a reason. He ain't that good.

    We had this exact same discussion when Troy Smith was here.

    I'm ok with one or two change of pace plays, like how he's being used now.

    Use him any more than that and it will reek of desperation.
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    Re: Should Tyrod Taylor be included more often?

    I would be okay with them having a package with Tyrod on a regular basis but only if the Ravens had three active QB's. I realize if Joe goes down we're screwed anyway but I still don't like the idea of using their only back up QB more then once in a while.




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    Re: Should Tyrod Taylor be included more often?

    Quote Originally Posted by JoeWedra View Post
    Flacco doesn't seem like an ego. I think he would have no problem, but always possible.

    Remember, Joe doesn't have to come off the field for Taylor to come in.
    It would definitely be a change up from Rice/Pierce.
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    Re: Should Tyrod Taylor be included more often?

    I see no reason not to use him in bunch formation packages like the one in which he got his one carry.

    Leading up to the game where he got that carry, there was talk on this board about the very subject. I mentioned in that thread that I wasn't so sure Taylor wasn't the best running threat on the team at that point in time (this was before Rice's breakout day on Sunday, and both he and Pierce were looking awful, bad line or not...). Then Taylor gets one carry and shows off his speed and agility.

    Say what you want, the guy can move the ball. I still say he can give you one good series a game as QB if push comes to shove; but what I'd rather see is him out there as a WR with the D having to wonder/think account for what he might do. As Joe points out in the article, at the very least, he provides the D with something to think about, game plan for, etc. These types of wrinkles -- which if nothing else force opponents to game plan for things that may or may not actually happen, or which cause a little bit of "paralysis by analysis" on the field -- are what good offensive coordinators do.

    In fact, now that I think about it, the point I made in that other thread was that we had seemed to only be able to loosen up gaps in the line when we showed the fake end around motion, which had been showcased a few times in the game prior to the one TT got his carry. Just that little bit of a look was throwing off defenses enough to allow us to break off "unheard of" gains of 5-7 yards, instead of consistent minus-1's.

    I see no downside in having Taylor split out as part of a bunch formation 4-5 plays a game. Joe rarely has time to work through all his progressions anyway, so in effect, most WRs are just decoys on most pass plays. How often do we actually target JJ or Deonte?

    While we're at it, I could stand to see us get creative getting the ball into Deonte's hands -- if he's as fast as advertised, lets see it. Put a TE out there in the bunch as a perimeter blocker and throw Deonte a frickin smokescreen. Get it to him on a reverse. Fake it to him on a reverse, I don't care. But throw some damn eye candy at the defense to they're not JUST sitting there teeing off on the inevitable run up the middle or pass to the outside.




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    Re: Should Tyrod Taylor be included more often?

    No.

    First the talent is the main reason, second when you only have one backup QB, no reason for any gimmick at that position.




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    Re: Should Tyrod Taylor be included more often?

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    I understand that.

    He's not being used more for a reason. He ain't that good.

    We had this exact same discussion when Troy Smith was here.

    I'm ok with one or two change of pace plays, like how he's being used now.

    Use him any more than that and it will reek of desperation.




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