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    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    He's so old.
    haha... was a joke. 81 is way too old. Even this term would have been tough on him to finish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    I'm well aware of recent polling, national trends, etc. None of the states you listed is indicative of some sort of national trend / shift or is anything new for that matter.

    OH and PA have been swing states for years. VA is a curious case now because of the amount of Dem money that went to the Libertarian in that race. Remove those votes and Cuccinelli is Gov.

    One thing I will agree on is the religious rights influence on the party is dwindling, thus causing a shift towards the tea party by those who still identify themselves as religious.
    Fair enough. Your opinion.

    They broke down how the libertarian vote spread went. It went equally. Take them out, cuccinelli still loses...


    http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...-virginia.html




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    Voting based on social issues will be the death of this country.

    Liberal view: Take everybody's money as long as you take their guns too.

    Republican view: Make sound fiscal decisions but take a hard line on opposing religious view points.


    Fiscally I'm even further on the right than Trap. I consider anyone who votes democrat to be little more than a thief unwilling to risk an ass-whooping by stealing my money themselves. On social issues I'm towards the middle, particularly with gay rights. Since I don't think government should be telling folks how to spend their money or live their lives, I vote for smaller government.
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    Re: Chris Christie

    Quote Originally Posted by kojo View Post
    Fair enough. Your opinion.

    They broke down how the libertarian vote spread went. It went equally. Take them out, cuccinelli still loses...


    http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...-virginia.html
    Forgive me if I give a skeptical eye to a left leaning site.

    The Hill and other non-partisan outlets have come up with a different conclusion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by darb72 View Post
    Voting based on social issues will be the death of this country.

    Liberal view: Take everybody's money as long as you take their guns too.

    Republican view: Make sound fiscal decisions but take a hard line on opposing religious view points.


    Fiscally I'm even further on the right than Trap. I consider anyone who votes democrat to be little more than a thief unwilling to risk an ass-whooping by stealing my money themselves. On social issues I'm towards the middle, particularly with gay rights. Since I don't think government should be telling folks how to spend their money or live their lives, I vote for smaller government.
    I totally agree with a lot of what you're saying.
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    Quote Originally Posted by darb72 View Post
    Voting based on social issues will be the death of this country.
    Liberal view: Take everybody's money as long as you take their guns too.

    Republican view: Make sound fiscal decisions but take a hard line on opposing religious view points.


    Fiscally I'm even further on the right than Trap. I consider anyone who votes democrat to be little more than a thief unwilling to risk an ass-whooping by stealing my money themselves. On social issues I'm towards the middle, particularly with gay rights. Since I don't think government should be telling folks how to spend their money or live their lives, I vote for smaller government.
    Darb, we are on the exact same wavelength here. I've ben lambasted for 2 coming on 3 elections now for laughing at people that vote based on social issues. It's why they keep stealing more and more of our money,.
    I might even be a bit more socially liberal, as long as you don't consider gun-rights a social issue, which I DO NOT.
    I truly and honestly believe that was this country needs is a swift kick in the pants from liberatarian values.

    The more we (as a populace) keep getting fooled by the sleight of hand caused by abortion and gay marriage discussion, the more we will see that the other hand is literally stealing money from our wallets.




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    Quote Originally Posted by darb72 View Post
    Voting based on social issues will be the death of this country.

    Liberal view: Take everybody's money as long as you take their guns too.

    Republican view: Make sound fiscal decisions but take a hard line on opposing religious view points.


    Fiscally I'm even further on the right than Trap. I consider anyone who votes democrat to be little more than a thief unwilling to risk an ass-whooping by stealing my money themselves.

    Who me? On the right? I thought I was in the middle. I'm for some gov't intervention.
    I'd never get on a plane w/o the FAA.

    I'm with you on the thief part but you do know it was the Republicans that
    introduced the income tax but the DEMs agreed with it really fast and then
    created a greater monster than the SS - IRS to steal our money but no one
    making under $3,000 pr yr paid taxes then.

    Alexander Hamilton was the father of the banking system or national bank with
    the blessing of George Washington. Presidents that tried to stop it were shot
    like Andy Jackson (his shooter blamed him for losing all his money, and btw Davey Crockett was with him when he was shot and wrestled the shooter to the ground and died later at the Alamo), Abraham Lincoln who said I have two great enemies, the Confederate army in front of me and the bank behind me, Garfield and McKinley were shot and JFK who signed an executive order that limited and damaged the Federal REserve bank (LBJ un-did what JFK did) created by Woodrow Wilson who paid back the Rothchilds in England for financing his campaign. The Rothchilds still own it and the world's banking system. After creating the bank for the Rothchilds Wilson said I just betrayed my country.


    On social issues I'm towards the middle, particularly with gay rights. Since I don't think government should be telling folks how to spend their money or live their lives, I vote for smaller government.

    Did you enjoy kicking Pelosi out of the Speaker's Chair? That's because all
    those people voted on social values then disappeared in the general election.
    Santorum got all those votes on social issues and almost out-lasted Mitt who had
    more money. There's that word again.


    And speaking of all those presidents getting shot for messing with the bank, Paul
    would be the next one shot if he were ever elected president if he agrees with his
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    Re: Chris Christie

    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    I know a lot of folks are thinking that Ted Cruz is a big possibility for the Republican nominee in 2016, but what about Christie? Two time winner in a blue state, this last time by a landslide. From what I understand he has done a good job getting NJ back on track and he has show that he is willing to work with Dems and Reps to get a job done (Hurricane Sandy).

    He is pretty moderate on some issues and pretty conservative on others.

    Seems to me that he might be a more viable candidate than a Ted Cruz or a Rand Paul, who might be a bit too extreme in some regards.


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    Re: Chris Christie

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    She already getting a free pass from the press on Benghazi. That's not going to be an issue. But I am not arguing that she's a strong candidate. Rather, the GOP is such a mess right now they won't be able to beat anyone the Dems throw up.



    But that's where the problem is for the GOP. It's so fractured AND polarized right now, it's a catch-22. Throw up a moderate, you lose the social conservatives and you don't win. Throw up a conservative, and you lose the moderates. Neither side is willing to bend at the moment. And I don't see Christie being the one to mend that fence. He's already on record being hostiles towards GOP conservatives, he's not particularly a friend of the 2A crowd and he's a bit wishy washy on gay marriage.

    He's the hot guy right now. That much is certain.
    The Dems that run against Hillary will probably use Benghazi, so she won't get a free pass. I would run a commercial using her "3 am phone call" ad from 2008 followed by a brief overview of Benghazi and the non-response and then finish with the "What does it matter" comment at the hearings.

    Christie is being pimped by the media like McCain and Romney were. Moderate "healers" and all of that crap. Reagan worked fine with the Democrats in Congress and he was more conservative than any of these three.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg View Post
    The Dems that run against Hillary will probably use Benghazi, so she won't get a free pass. I would run a commercial using her "3 am phone call" ad from 2008 followed by a brief overview of Benghazi and the non-response and then finish with the "What does it matter" comment at the hearings.
    I don't think that will happen. Looks at what happened when Hillary pulled out her ace against Obama. The second she brought up Tony Rezko, she got a behind the scene's tongue lashing that you don't pull those trump cards that give the GOP talking points.

    Besides, this is the MSM we're talking about. They're going to shape the message, not a potential candidate in the Dem primary.

    She is most likely going to un unopposed anyway. But if not, the candidate won't be taken seriously by the media, thus Benghazi won't be an issue.

    Quote Originally Posted by Greg View Post
    Christie is being pimped by the media like McCain and Romney were. Moderate "healers" and all of that crap. Reagan worked fine with the Democrats in Congress and he was more conservative than any of these three.
    Reagan bypassed the media. Instead of relying on an unwilling, openly hostile media to try and get his message out (and accurately), he simply took to local interviews, radio programs, etc to get his point across.
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    I will be surprised if Hillary has no competition. And if somebody wants the job they will use whatever they can. If not and she is the nominee the Republican should most certainly use it. They should also be starting NOW to lash her to Obamacare. I don't know how much it is like her idea from the 90s but it is close. I would begin painting her with that brush now.




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    Reagan was one of the most liberal presidents since FDR. After granting big tax breaks, he took 1/3 of it back by raising taxes 4 times in his first term with much pressure from his WH staff. Then he raised taxes about 7 or 8 times in his second term. That's why Bush said read my lips, no new taxes. Of course he raised them too and it cost him the election. Conservatives didn't give him the pass they gave Reagan.

    When 60 MIns brought this up to Cantor the big rising star of the conservatives his man yelled from off camera that's not true on the air. Darlene Stahl played tapes of Reagan saying he had to compromise and raise taxes. Played 4 different tapes. Cantor didn't even know it.

    Then, after campaigning to streamline the federal gov't he created the biggest monster since IRS called the Protection Plunge Plan or PPP. This plan is so secret that most experts on Wall Street don't know about it including my broker when I asked him.

    We had a bank manager coming in here who knew about it and all about derivatives and he wanted to know how I knew. I read John Crudele.

    The purpose of the PPP was to prevent another Black Monday of the 80s when the markets crashed. Someone in the GOP who lost a lot of money, probably Mease who put Reagan in and became the Atty General, forced Reagan to create so he wouldn't lose any more money. Someone big forced him to do it.

    The PPP got more dangerous as Clinton expanded it even greater as it sets the markets price as the recent Chairman of Sachs who was Clinton's financial czar operated it during Ws term since he was experienced with it. He was ahead of Goldman Sachs which collapsed after Lehman Bros that caused the crash and they got all that TARP money. He knows how the market is going as he sets and determines the shorts and derivatives and makes a nice profit on the side for him and his cronies.

    It was working great until the crash of 08 when I lost a lot of money.
    Four men control Wall Street and nobody knows about it.

    Try calling the PPP and see if you get through to their office. John
    Crudele tried and couldn't get thru.

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