How would you rate John Harbaugh's coach selection/management over the past 5 1/2 years?

[RavensRule21215]

Pretty straight forward. Rather than beat at leaves and branches...let's just get to the root: how would you rate John Harbaugh's coach selection and coach management over the past 5 1/2 years?

[pslholder96]

What criteria do you have in mind? Are we looking at wins, losses, # of pro bowlers produced, offensive/defensive statistical rankings etc?

[RavensRule21215]

What criteria do you have in mind? Are we looking at wins, losses, # of pro bowlers produced, offensive/defensive statistical rankings etc?

Use whatever criteria you want. It's not really rocket science. It's an OPINION poll. No more/no less. (If you want to bolster your opinion with criteria, it certainly makes for a stronger argument/opinion.)

[ERey]

How can he not get an "A"? Super Bowl and nothing but winning for 5 years. I guess we could have won another Super Bowl or two. But that's almost an impossible task for any team. John Harbaugh has been at the top for 5 years.

[RavensRule21215]

How can he not get an "A"? Super Bowl and nothing but winning for 5 years. I guess we could have won another Super Bowl or two. But that's almost an impossible task for any team. John Harbaugh has been at the top for 5 years.

Do "A" head coaches have 2 assistant coaches removed from under them (Mattison and Cameron), with arguably more on the way?

[Rayvens52]

Do "A" head coaches have 2 assistant coaches removed from under them (Mattison and Cameron), with arguably more on the way?

Nope Harbaugh is the only good coach to ever remove coaches, this is a first!

[elland]

Someone is in denial.

Anything but A or B is pure hate.

[lobachevsky]

Someone is in denial.

Anything but A or B is pure hate.

Two words for you: Horse. Shit.

Do you really think Harbaugh's collection of don't-rock-the-boat mid-level managers has come anywhere near getting the best out of their players? I sure as hell don't. But when you have guys like Flacco & Rice & Webb & Pitta just coming into their prime, Ngata & Suggs & Yanda in their prime, & Lewis & Ed Reed around to glue things back together when they start to come apart, it doesn't take more than mediocre management to get into the playoffs, "where anything can happen."

The one player they can arguably claim to have developed into a major talent is Torrey Smith, & I don't see a lot of evidence that coaching had that much to do with it.

[RavensRule21215]

Nope Harbaugh is the only good coach to ever remove coaches, this is a first!

Maybe I should have been more specific...

involuntarily removed.

Better?

(And please...refresh my memory...when was another OC removed with 1 week left in the regular season?)

(sarcasm, indeed)

[RavensRule21215]

Two words for you: Horse. Shit.

Do you really think Harbaugh's collection of don't-rock-the-boat mid-level managers has come anywhere near getting the best out of their players? I sure as hell don't. But when you have guys like Flacco & Rice & Webb & Pitta just coming into their prime, Ngata & Suggs & Yanda in their prime, & Lewis & Ed Reed around to glue things back together when they start to come apart, it doesn't take more than mediocre management to get into the playoffs, "where anything can happen."

The one player they can arguably claim to have developed into a major talent is Torrey Smith, & I don't see a lot of evidence that coaching had that much to do with it.

I agree with your take on the coaching staff and its effect, or lack thereof, on the players' performance(s). I do, however, think the coaching staff did a good job with Smith. He is so much better now than when he first arrived it's got to have something to do with the coaching. He still needs to fight better to get off the line, but his routes are better, he's not stopping 3/4's of the way through his routes the way he did his first year, he tracks the ball better (remember him looking skyward and confused that first year? not so much at all now), and he's holding onto the ball much better now as well.

[wickedsolo]

Maybe I should have been more specific...

involuntarily removed.

Better?

(And please...refresh my memory...when was another OC removed with 1 week left in the regular season?)

(sarcasm, indeed)

Couldn't you argue that Harbs nixing Cam in the middle of the season adds to his ability to manage a situation?

I think what a lot of fans don't realize (or want to admit) is that most things in the NFL move at the speed of slow. It is rare that coaches are fired or replaced; even when they clearly are not very good. IMO this is similar to how teams like the Jets had such a hard time moving on from Mark Sanchez even though the writing was on the wall about him as a player.

[TTRaven]

Look at the coaches Harbaugh has brought in:

Cameron
Mattison
Castillo
Moeller
Rosburg
Hostler
Pees
Caldwell

That's not exactly a list of great coaches.