Ted Cruz

**wickedsolo** · 10-30-2013, 10:46 AM

So, after discussing with HR and NCRAVEN, I decided to do a little reading on Cruz.

I've actually sat in on a few "Town Hall" conversations with Cruz during the gov shutdown (these were over the phone...I'm sure many folks had the same opportunity) and I agree with a lot of the things he says.

Clearly he has his sights set on the 2016 election as he is already campaigning in South Carolina, New Hampshire and Iowa. I like that he is for less "Big Government". As a Libertarian, the less the Federal Government has their hands in, the better. I also found it interesting that he is very influenced by free market ideologies like Friedman and Keynes.

I'd be interested to see if I can find some of his voting history.

**NCRAVEN** · 10-30-2013, 11:11 AM

Originally Posted by wickedsolo

So, after discussing with HR and NCRAVEN, I decided to do a little reading on Cruz.

I've actually sat in on a few "Town Hall" conversations with Cruz during the gov shutdown (these were over the phone...I'm sure many folks had the same opportunity) and I agree with a lot of the things he says.

Clearly he has his sights set on the 2016 election as he is already campaigning in South Carolina, New Hampshire and Iowa. I like that he is for less "Big Government". As a Libertarian, the less the Federal Government has their hands in, the better. I also found it interesting that he is very influenced by free market ideologies like Friedman and Keynes.

I'd be interested to see if I can find some of his voting history.

Voting histroy will be tough as I am almost certain this is his first real role as a politician. Check out his "record" if you will as an AG in Texas.

**HoustonRaven** · 10-30-2013, 11:18 AM

I don't think you're going to find much of a record in the Senate. He simply hasn't been there long enough.

He wasn't the AG of Texas, he was the Solicitor General of Texas, appointed by the AG.

I am on the fence right now with him. I was very much behind him during his campaign, but his filibuster soured me in that he ended up voting FOR the very thing he was trying to delay.

He also has a very unclear record on gay marriage. As solicitor, he defended traditional marriage laws but he doesn't have the liberty to pick the cases he has to defend. That's the AG's job. Since then, I cannot see any voting record or substantive speech. I am hoping he stays true to his Libertarian roots on the issue. It may be a deal breaker for me.

**wickedsolo** · 10-30-2013, 01:03 PM

Originally Posted by HoustonRaven

I don't think you're going to find much of a record in the Senate. He simply hasn't been there long enough.

He wasn't the AG of Texas, he was the Solicitor General of Texas, appointed by the AG.

I am on the fence right now with him. I was very much behind him during his campaign, but his filibuster soured me in that he ended up voting FOR the very thing he was trying to delay.

He also has a very unclear record on gay marriage. As solicitor, he defended traditional marriage laws but he doesn't have the liberty to pick the cases he has to defend. That's the AG's job. Since then, I cannot see any voting record or substantive speech. I am hoping he stays true to his Libertarian roots on the issue. It may be a deal breaker for me.

Yea, his seeming "Republican duty" to pander to the Christian Right (which means disagreeing with same sex marriage, etc) is something that I am concerned about.

Christians can believe whatever they want...I just don't think any government has the right or authority to tell us who we can and cannot marry.

**Greg** · 10-31-2013, 12:37 PM

Originally Posted by wickedsolo

Yea, his seeming "Republican duty" to pander to the Christian Right (which means disagreeing with same sex marriage, etc) is something that I am concerned about.

Christians can believe whatever they want...I just don't think any government has the right or authority to tell us who we can and cannot marry.

LOL, so I should be able to marry 10 women then?

**HoustonRaven** · 10-31-2013, 01:01 PM

Originally Posted by Greg

LOL, so I should be able to marry 10 women then?

Such a bogus argument that's been disproven hundreds of times over.

Other countries which allow gay marriage prove what a non-starter this debate point is. Opening the door to same sex marriage does not even come close to allowing polygamy or any other perversions of marriage.

Take a moment and go talk to a gay couple. They're just like you or I, looking for the same things you and I enjoy.

**wickedsolo** · 10-31-2013, 03:43 PM

Originally Posted by Greg

LOL, so I should be able to marry 10 women then?

If that's your thing, what the hell do I care? Why should anyone care? If you can convince 10 different women to marry you, then have at it.

Those are personal choices.

I like beer. If I want to drink 10 beers in one sitting and get plastered, I can. I don't want the government telling me that I can't sit down in my own house and have 10 beers.

In a lot of states (some up until very recently) oral sex, anal sex and other forms of doing the "naughty" were illegal.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/2008/04...t-plain-silly/

What business is it of the government (state or fed) to tell me what I can and cannot do with my significant other in the privacy of my own house?