Results 73 to 84 of 106
Thread: Ravens Make Costly Blunder?
-
10-25-2013, 11:40 AM #73
- Join Date
- Sep 2011
- Location
- Where Ravens Fans Roam Free
- Posts
- 9,274
- Blog Entries
- 1
Re: Ravens Make Costly Blunder?
People can get bronze-level plans at very affordable rates. They can also get subsidies to help them pay for those plans or higher level plans if they have financial need. That is a tidbit that Fox News never mentions. They quote insurance rates, but never mention the subsides that are available for people to help them pay for more generous plans if they need them and can't afford them. This is why getting uninsured healthy people to sign up is so important. Getting more uninsured healthy people to sign up will allow for the insurance risk to be spread, which will bring down premium costs for everyone, but especially for those people with pre-existing conditions who really need this coverage.
A couple of other good things that the ACA does is require that insurance companies spend 80% of premium revenue on medical costs. If medical costs are less than 80% of total premium revenue, the difference must be returned to insured members. Also, the ACA expands funding for Medicaid. Two-thirds of all money spent on Medicaid is spent on nursing home care for senior citizens. Medicare does not cover nursing home care, so if you are elderly, need nursing home care, and can't afford it, Medicaid steps in and pays for it. Romney wanted to block grant Medicaid, thus cutting it by one third.Last edited by Dirt1; 10-25-2013 at 11:46 AM.
-
10-25-2013, 11:47 AM #74
Re: Ravens Make Costly Blunder?
If there's some compelling need to use the stadium video boards, TV ads, the Ravens web-site etc to broadcast propaganda about socializing medical care, there should be more of this crap for other "worthy causes". How about the Ravens inform their fans about how safe we are due to the Patriot Act?
You can't cherry-pick highly controversial political positions to support without pissing off a lot of your fans.In a 2003 BBC poll that asked Brits to name the "Greatest American Ever", Mr. T came in fourth, behind ML King (3rd), Abe Lincoln (2nd) and Homer Simpson (1st).
-
Re: Ravens Make Costly Blunder?
Why is it I can never talk to someone with an opposing view on the internet without them bringing up Fox News... ( I don't watch the news, any of it, none zilch, zero)
First, I would ask you to define an "affordable" bronze plan, would $20,000 a year for a family of 4 be "affordable"?
And not everyone can get a subsidy. You have to qualify, and even if you do, where does the money for that subsidy come from?
That's not good at all. How about you go tell your boss the company you work for can only use 20% of what it takes in on operating cost (rent, utilities, salaries, stationary, advertising etc.) I bet that would go over like a turd in the punch bowl.
Good to know the Government has a magical money tree that funds everything with no consequences.
-
10-25-2013, 11:52 AM #76
- Join Date
- Sep 2011
- Location
- Where Ravens Fans Roam Free
- Posts
- 9,274
- Blog Entries
- 1
Re: Ravens Make Costly Blunder?
BTW, I have engaged in far less partisan BS than those who are opposed to the ACA, and less than Tony expressed in his article.
-
10-25-2013, 12:24 PM #77
- Join Date
- Sep 2011
- Location
- Where Ravens Fans Roam Free
- Posts
- 9,274
- Blog Entries
- 1
Re: Ravens Make Costly Blunder?
Please check out the factcheck.org link below debunking your $20,000/year for a family claim. More misinformation.
http://www.factcheck.org/2013/03/oba...0000-a-family/
The cost assistance (subsidies) are based on income. The average American will pay between 3% - 9.5% of their income on insurance after cost assistance. Insurance costing 8% of your income is considered affordable insurance for individuals. 9.5% is considered affordable for job based insurance. When you get health insurance through your company, you are still paying about 20% of the premium costs through your payroll deductions.
The cost of health insurance premiums have been rising rapidly for decades and would have continued to do so, even before the ACA was passed. We'll see how good a job the ACA will do in lowering long term health care costs.
Good to know the Government has a magical money tree that funds everything with no consequences.Last edited by HoustonRaven; 10-25-2013 at 12:50 PM. Reason: Fix formatting
-
10-25-2013, 12:38 PM #78Legendary RSR Poster
- Join Date
- Aug 2007
- Location
- Houston, TX Y'all
- Posts
- 34,414
Re: Ravens Make Costly Blunder?
That's not what the shut down was about.
The money doesn't go to him. It goes to the team and $130,000 is a lot of money in team operations.
And Bisciotti is a Democrat. So lets stop with the silly notion this was a benevolent decision.
So basically you're ok with the lies such as "your insurance premiums won't go up" and "you can keep your plan if you like it" in order to get it passed?
If it's such a great thing, why are even Democrats calling for a delay?Last edited by HoustonRaven; 10-25-2013 at 12:54 PM.
-
Re: Ravens Make Costly Blunder?
I asked if you would define that as affordable, I didn't say that was the case. However factcheck doesn't say that it isn't true or that it is, they just say it was an estimate from the IRS. So it very well could be the case.
So where does the money for those subsidies come from?
I don't get this. If it's already not lowering rates, what makes you think it would long term? Cause Obama promised it?
You're not going to get any argument on me about where money is being spent. But please, please let's not pretend it's only Republicans spending money else where than this country.
Seriously, it's almost pointless for us to continue talking about this when only "one side" is the cause of all life's problems.
I do have to ask though, why do you leave out 2010, when they ran on this? http://www.centerforpolitics.org/cry...txs2010120901/
The problem with 2008 and 2012 is republicans are nominating RINO's and people are tired of it, try checking the turn out numbers if you don't believe me.
-
Re: Ravens Make Costly Blunder?
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/fla-bl...142302560.html
I know you know this, but it's so the fines don't hit prior to next years elections...
-
10-25-2013, 12:53 PM #81
Re: Ravens Make Costly Blunder?
Hey NC, I didn't make it back here right away so didn't see your post above until now.
While we may have some issues concerning mutual understanding in terms of sentence structure and wording, I glean that one point you're trying to make is: Why did I read an article about Tony's political views if I'm only interested in football. Is that correct?
If so, I can clarify that. Tony's article is titled "Ravens Make Costly Blunder?", which could have meant anything from Ray Rice's contract to some future plans for the stadium. So I decided to read it. If you go back over the article, you'll see there was no reference whatsoever to Obamacare or politics before roughly the 12th paragraph. By the time I got that far, I went ahead and finished the article. Ordinarily I skip political articles/editorials on non-political websites. This turned out to be an exception for the aforementioned reason.
-
Re: Ravens Make Costly Blunder?
Not really.
Your first post said this "I normally don't visit the politics thread because I come here for football talk, not politics."
Which I think most everyone's point is (including Tony's). We watch the Ravens cause they are the team we root for when watching football. Not to have divisive issue promoted to us (via taxpayer money).
While I may have been able to word it better, I was just trying to show you the point others were trying to make with the point you made "I normally don't visit the politics thread because I come here for football talk, not politics." That's all.
-
10-25-2013, 01:11 PM #83
-
Bookmarks