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    Re: Tea Party to separate from Republican Party?



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    Re: Tea Party to separate from Republican Party?

    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    Trap, I don't have a specific link to something definitive. However, there are a lot of op-ed pieces out there indicating that this rumor might have legs.

    For example: http://communities.washingtontimes.c...rty-split-gop/

    One of my fraternity brothers works for a lobbying firm down by the Capitol and he and I had a couple of beers a few weeks ago. He was telling me about how the Tea Party members within the Republican Party have really been difficult to work with within the GOP for a lot of different reasons, but mainly because they are a small (but significant) group within the GOP that doesn't like the way moderate Republicans kind of straddle that fence in the middle.

    I just kind of look at the Republican Party right now and it just seems so fractured.

    I'm a libertarian anyway, so it doesn't bother me one way or the other outside of the fact that this country - for some unintelligible reason - still operates under the two party system and both Dems and Reps need to work together to get shit accomplished.
    OK, Thanks.

    Great points. We agree on something-lol. I voted Libertarian too.

    I just found this link on why the Tea Party pushed for the stand off.


    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013...rly-failed-to/
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    Libertarians as well as the Green Party will probably never be a major force, ditto for the Tea party if it actually does split out (my bet is it won't split out the GOP). This article IMO gives a pretty good explanation on why the 2 party system is so strong here compared to other countries:

    http://www.glancingout.com/post/4314...s-or-a-4th-5th




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    Re: Tea Party to separate from Republican Party?

    Yea, I meant to say that.

    It's always been a 2 party system. Once in a while a 3rd party candidate like Perot might jump in and mess things up like he did for Bush but it's always a two party system.

    TEa Party needs to stay in and shake things up. If they can mobilize the Christians they could really be a force and make some waves within the party like in the mid terms and get more of their candidates in.




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    I just found this on Fox and the Tea Partiers say it was worth the fight and will fight on with O BUMMER CARE saying Americans are losing the insurance they loved and paid for.

    Sounds like they're staying in to me.

    Senate GOPs ruined things and didn't cooperate with them. Theyre
    the liberals of the party. Screw em.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013...n-worth-fight/




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    Re: Tea Party to separate from Republican Party?

    Quote Originally Posted by kojo View Post
    Libertarians as well as the Green Party will probably never be a major force, ditto for the Tea party if it actually does split out (my bet is it won't split out the GOP). This article IMO gives a pretty good explanation on why the 2 party system is so strong here compared to other countries:

    http://www.glancingout.com/post/4314...s-or-a-4th-5th
    8 months ago, when this piece was written, I would have agreed with you.

    But support for a third party is at a high never seen before.

    It's going to happen eventually. Just a matter of how soon, IMO.
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    Re: Tea Party to separate from Republican Party?

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    8 months ago, when this piece was written, I would have agreed with you.

    But support for a third party is at a high never seen before.

    It's going to happen eventually. Just a matter of how soon, IMO.
    I agree.

    I think it is only a matter of time before the general populace gets entirely fed up with Reps and Dems.


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    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    8 months ago, when this piece was written, I would have agreed with you.

    But support for a third party is at a high never seen before.

    It's going to happen eventually. Just a matter of how soon, IMO.
    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    I agree.

    I think it is only a matter of time before the general populace gets entirely fed up with Reps and Dems.


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    seeing as much as we all debate issues on here, but still ultimately support Libertarian and/or the need for a 3rd party id fully agree with that. One thing you can certainly say, especially with this shut down, is the people are getting fed up with status quo in washington.
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    "Republicans are a party of bad ideas and Democrats are a party of no ideas. Republicans in Congress stand up and say 'I got a really bad idea!' And the Democrat immediately follows that up with 'And I can make it shittier!'"

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    Re: Tea Party to separate from Republican Party?

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    8 months ago, when this piece was written, I would have agreed with you.

    But support for a third party is at a high never seen before.

    It's going to happen eventually. Just a matter of how soon, IMO.
    The article addresses that. When this happens we eventually settle back into a new two party equilibrium, typically with one of the old parties dying and being replaced by a new one.




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    Re: Tea Party to separate from Republican Party?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kyle Cactus View Post
    The article addresses that. When this happens we eventually settle back into a new two party equilibrium, typically with one of the old parties dying and being replaced by a new one.
    How can an 8 month old article address a poll number that occurred 5 days ago?

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/165392/pe...-new-high.aspx
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    Re: Tea Party to separate from Republican Party?

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    How can an 8 month old article address a poll number that occurred 5 days ago?

    http://www.gallup.com/poll/165392/pe...-new-high.aspx
    It doesn't need to address that poll specifically. It addresses historical precedent. When a third party has gained footing in the past, it has been at the expense of another, resulting in a return to a two party system.

    Having a sustained 3 party system after a shake-up in the political balance is historically unprecedented. That doesn't mean it's impossible, but my guess is if we do have a 3rd party emerge, history will repeat itself.




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    Re: Tea Party to separate from Republican Party?

    Not sure if a joke or not or how much legs this rumor (?) has, but if true it might be absolutely best for both parties.

    Somewhere along the line, Republicans became less known for their fiscal views and more for the extremely vocal minority that won't shut up about hot button issues related to sex, gender, marriage, the Bible, what-have-you.

    Republican Party has its hands full catering to the whims of that group. Especially when the group can't even see it's hurting Republicans when it acts crazy.




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