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    Re: Reed Needs to Retire



    That signing was all on their owner.

    He felt that the Texans were mentaly weak, so he demanded that Rick Smith (a terrific GM IMHO) to get players to help in that respect.

    They targeted Ed...and you can see just how involved the owner was and how badly he wanted him because he sent private planes out for Ed and they wined and dined him for like 2-3 days in Houston.

    Who does that anymore? No teams go to that level anymore...not since the 90's. John McClain even said that Reed was the first player the Texans rolled out that type of red carpet for.

    This is what happens when the owner gets involved.


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    Re: Ed Reed is active

    Quote Originally Posted by lowrider View Post
    This. Houston really didn't do their homework on this one.
    That's the truth. Everyone was shocked when the details of that contract came out. I don't think anyone saw Reed getting even half what they paid him.
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    Re: Ed Reed is active

    Quote Originally Posted by Dirt1 View Post
    Agreed, but you have to admit that if both Ray and Ed had gone into the HOF the same year, that Ray would have gotten most of the attention. I have long felt that Ed never got the national publicity that he deserved, because his career was overshadowed by Ray's career.
    Agreed ... I am glad that Ed will not be the same year as Ray so we can have great party for EACH of them in Baltimore not for BOTH of them. I always like Ed Reed however he is not Ray Lewis and him going in the same year would have taken away any spotlight Ed would have gotten.

    I would rather him finishes this year so we can have Back To Back HOF Events!


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    Re: Ed Reed is active

    Texans 0-3 when reed plays.




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    Re: Ed Reed is active

    I guess the idea of 'saving him for the playoffs' went out the window when it started appearing unlikely they'd make the playoffs.
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    Re: Ed Reed is active

    Quote Originally Posted by bt12483 View Post
    Texans 0-3 when reed plays.
    0-3 when Schaub throws a pick-6 also.. can't blame it all on Reed.




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    Re: Ed Reed is active

    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenswintitle View Post
    I guess the idea of 'saving him for the playoffs' went out the window when it started appearing unlikely they'd make the playoffs.
    Texans fans were so delusional. They were saying that Reed was going to come in and make the secondary shut down top QB's like Manning in the playoffs.

    Schaub is the real problem with that team.




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    Re: Ed Reed is active

    Yes Ed Reed has lost it and I too am glad he got his money in Houston but we have our own concerns at safety... which is our biggest weakness on this defense




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    Re: Ed Reed is active

    Quote Originally Posted by Digits View Post
    Yes Ed Reed has lost it and I too am glad he got his money in Houston but we have our own concerns at safety... which is our biggest weakness on this defense
    Safety our biggest concern on defense?



    LOL no. Ihedigbo is playing at a very high level. He is PFF's highest rated safety in the NFL. Also, Elam has been playing well. Just because they aren't making huge splash plays doesn't mean they aren't playing well. Ihedigbo was an inch away from having a pick.




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    Re: Ed Reed is active

    Reed not being able to catch Davis is no big deal. There might be 2 safeties in the league than can run Davis down. He is by far the fastest TE in the game.

    That being said, we all saw this coming with Ed. He is a shadow of his former self and certainly isn't worth anywhere NEAR what Houston paid him. He is not anywhere near the biggest problem in Houston either. Schaub is the problem, the guy is a turd, plain and simple. He was a bad team mate in Atlanta if you guys can remember back. When he was 2nd string behind Vick, I remember him not being too happy and all to quick to talk about it. Now he is a robot in the pocket and people have seen enough of him on tape to predict with almost absolute certainty what he is going to do in certain situations. Now not all of that is on Schaub, some has to go on Kubiak for the predictable play calling, but Schaub has to see the coverage and go somewhere else.




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    Re: Ed Reed is active

    Quote Originally Posted by Digits View Post
    Yes Ed Reed has lost it and I too am glad he got his money in Houston but we have our own concerns at safety... which is our biggest weakness on this defense
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    Re: Ed Reed is active

    Quote Originally Posted by Dirt1 View Post
    Agreed, but you have to admit that if both Ray and Ed had gone into the HOF the same year, that Ray would have gotten most of the attention. I have long felt that Ed never got the national publicity that he deserved, because his career was overshadowed by Ray's career.
    That was true even to the last home game Ed ever played in a Raven uniform. The entire playoff game against the Colts was about Ray -- very little was mentioned about Ed. There are reasons for that: Ed had not announced his retirement and Ray had been the face of the franchise since it got to Baltimore. But it was telling that even on his last ride as a Raven, Ed got very little attention. Maybe he wanted it that way.




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    Quote Originally Posted by RavenScallywag View Post
    Jimmy Smith approves this message...or he would have, if he had seen it coming his way.




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    Re: Ed Reed is active

    Ozzie is successful for many reasons. One is that he would let a HOF player like Ed Reed walk and draft Elam in the 1st round... Bc




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    Re: Ed Reed is active

    I think if you look at it on the surface - "did the Texans expect to get a player who performs at HOF level?", then the answer is no, I don't think they were stupid enough to think that Ed would be able to do that.

    However if you were to ask "did the Texans want to purchase a piece of the teamwork magic of the Ravens?" the then the answer is yes, they were trying to put together a unit that has the cohesiveness and field intelligence that the Ravens displayed for years.

    Problem is you can't just buy one player and plug him into just any old situation and think it would work. You would have needed Ed, a bunch of other players, a bunch of the coaching staff, and probably the freaking owner to get what you saw Ed doing here. Ed's greatness here wasn't just Ed, it was Ed + Ravens.

    The Texans weren't stupid to try to get something like what the Ravens have, but they were downright moronic to think that getting Ed would be the piece they needed to make it happen. That level of idiocy is a surefire sign the Texans are a troubled organization, top to bottom.




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