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    Joe Flacco Urgency



    If that game doesn't prove once and for all that it all starts and ends with the line for Joe, then you simply don't understand the game.

    When Joe had time, he was successful. When he had white shirts in his face, he looked like crap.

    Joe has the talent and has proven such, he just needs more than two seconds in the pocket to show it.
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    Re: Joe Flacco Urgency

    Joe's demeanor has always been like that. It's not an issue. The man is still winning games.
    He's also bigger than you think so it's only natural that this drop backs appear to be in slow motion. He takes big strides too.




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    Re: Joe Flacco Urgency

    Joe is never going to be Big Ben in the pocket but he is hardly a statue. It's hard to step up into the pocket when there is not pocket.
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    Re: Joe Flacco Urgency

    Quote Originally Posted by pslholder96 View Post
    Joe's demeanor has always been like that. It's not an issue. The man is still winning games.
    He's also bigger than you think so it's only natural that this drop backs appear to be in slow motion. He takes big strides too.
    You know you think some people would be grateful to have a caliber QB like Flacco here in Bmore when for years we never had shit...smh




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    Re: Joe Flacco Urgency

    I hear you and yes it gets old. I wonder if a lot of our fan base came on board in 2008. If that's the case then it explains why they don't appreciate what we have.




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    Re: Joe Flacco Urgency

    Quote Originally Posted by Jsmoove View Post
    You know you think some people would be grateful to have a caliber QB like Flacco here in Bmore when for years we never had shit...smh
    +1
    "Screw it, let's ride"!




  7. #22

    Re: Joe Flacco Urgency

    Other Qbs often get hurt scrambling around. I'll take a QB that wins more often then not, hasn't missed a game since he started, and is always competitive, wanting to win all the time. He is better then any QB the Ravens had in the past and with a good LT and receivers healthy, watch out.




  8. #23

    Re: Joe Flacco Urgency

    Flaccos improved pocket presence (and size) is one of the reasons he hasn't been sacked more. He's sliding and making other subtle steps in a muddled pocket that buy him a little more time to find someone downfield. If this were 2 or 3 years ago he'd be fumbling because of his bad ball security in the pocket, now he's a lot more conscience of his arm/shoulder position.




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    Re: Joe Flacco Urgency

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    If that game doesn't prove once and for all that it all starts and ends with the line for Joe, then you simply don't understand the game.

    When Joe had time, he was successful. When he had white shirts in his face, he looked like crap.

    Joe has the talent and has proven such, he just needs more than two seconds in the pocket to show it.
    This is what have been saying about Flacco all along. If you give him time to throw, good WRs, and a good running game, he can be lethal. However, he is not a guy that can put the ball up 40-50 times per game without turning the ball over multiple times. Flacco is a very good QB, and the Ravens are lucky to have him.




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    Re: Joe Flacco Urgency

    look at cam Newton right now..lol..some folks are just ungrateful, I'll take Joe all day every day, he may not be flashy or put up gaudy regular season stats but Joe is a winner thats all we need.




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    Quote Originally Posted by RavingMad View Post
    Been saying this for years. Very slow on the drop back. Those play action plays that forces him to be athletic are SO SLOW to develop. The rushers are all over him before he can set his feet and throw. Once he gets going he can move pretty good, but he has no acceleration.
    I hear ya ravingmad. He is slow to accelerate due to that "extra mass" (PHYS 101) but if we can ever get solid 0-line protection to give him an extra .25sec of time, particularly on the left side, #5 and that big arm will be deadly.




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    Re: Joe Flacco Urgency

    Quote Originally Posted by Jsmoove View Post
    wtf do some of these people look at??
    Joe has a better rushing avg than Rice's 2.9 at 3.2 yds pr carry-lol.

    He just threw for 269 yards yesterday in the extreme heat.

    Yea, Joe's slow. He can't think and throw at the same time.


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    Re: Joe Flacco Urgency

    The OP is right to point out that Joe does not have the swiftest foot speed in his traditional drop-back, but what I want to know is why Caldwell keeps calling so many straight 5 and 7 step drops, with or without play-action? Where are the roll-outs and sprint outs we ran to such success last year? They would help the ailing OL, and Joe actually seems quicker and more sound mechanically from a bootleg than a straight drop.

    We also all know how much better he plays from the shotgun, yet the Ravens make little effort to use the shotgun creatively, and don't use the pistol at all, even though traditional offenses like Manning's Broncos are now using the pistol formation at times.

    This team is still struggling terribly to play to the strengths of its personnel, despite having made some progress in that respect in last year's playoff run. I don't think Caldwell has regressed as an offensive coach, so I fear what we're seeing is Harbaugh's ultra-conservative side coming out and taking over again.




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    Re: Joe Flacco Urgency

    Quote Originally Posted by bmorecareful View Post
    The OP is right to point out that Joe does not have the swiftest foot speed in his traditional drop-back, but what I want to know is why Caldwell keeps calling so many straight 5 and 7 step drops, with or without play-action? Where are the roll-outs and sprint outs we ran to such success last year? They would help the ailing OL, and Joe actually seems quicker and more sound mechanically from a bootleg than a straight drop.

    We also all know how much better he plays from the shotgun, yet the Ravens make little effort to use the shotgun creatively, and don't use the pistol at all, even though traditional offenses like Manning's Broncos are now using the pistol formation at times.

    This team is still struggling terribly to play to the strengths of its personnel, despite having made some progress in that respect in last year's playoff run. I don't think Caldwell has regressed as an offensive coach, so I fear what we're seeing is Harbaugh's ultra-conservative side coming out and taking over again.
    I certainly would like to see more bootlegs. Not sure why we just completely refuse to do bootleg/PA type plays that worked so well in the play offs. In saying that, we need a good running game to run those type of plays, and we obviously currently can't get it going right now on the ground. Maybe that will change with the addition of Monroe.




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    Re: Joe Flacco Urgency

    I have not noticed anything about Joe's drop back that is cause for concern. I'm much more concerned about the o-line than anything Joe does. Get the o-line fixed and the offense will take off.




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