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    Re: Gradkowski must sit



    I'd wait, Ravens have to get the OL to work together. Hopefully, Munroe is going to be helpful. First full year without much help for Gino. It should get better as long as Gino handles the thinking part of being a center.




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    Re: Gradkowski must sit

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    PFF is a joke. There's a reason no reputable GM in the league uses them.

    Yesterday, he had his best game if the season. I don't see why you need to then shift the line around the next week after his best outing.

    That's something you build on, not change.
    Their grading system is a joke. However their pressure statistics are more accurate, or as accurate as any other stats website. I`m more worried about the small sample size then PFF somehow being wayyy off with their stats. 5 pressures in 5 games is pretty good. Actually it is only 4, since the last one came from a different game when he was in at LG.

    I think we need to find the best lineup period, and then roll from there. If that means moving several pieces around, then so be it. We moved 3 players prior to the playoffs last year, and it didn`t take long for them to get in sync.




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    Re: Gradkowski must sit

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    PFF is a joke. There's a reason no reputable GM in the league uses them.

    Yesterday, he had his best game if the season. I don't see why you need to then shift the line around the next week after his best outing.

    That's something you build on, not change.
    Their grading system is generally a joke, I'll agree with that, but did you even read his post? 5 pressures and no sacks (grading system or no grading system) is pretty damn good, and certainly A LOT better than what Gradkowski has ever had.

    I'd start him this week if KO is good to go.




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    Re: Gradkowski must sit

    Quote Originally Posted by RavenScallywag View Post
    I'll wait for Filmstudy's writeup. In my view, Gradkowski and Shipley turned in equal games. Both had rough spots, both seemed to improve in the 2nd half. You could argue that Shipley's is more impressive due to playing LG and without any prep, but I'm not so sure that equates to him being clearly better than Gradkowski.
    Shipley also doesn't have the wear of 4 games of starting. Doesn't have to rhythm either though so who knows if that balances out.




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    Quote Originally Posted by leachisabeast View Post
    Their grading system is generally a joke, I'll agree with that, but did you even read his post? 5 pressures and no sacks (grading system or no grading system) is pretty damn good, and certainly A LOT better than what Gradkowski has ever had.

    I'd start him this week if KO is good to go.
    Agreed. Gradkowski's performance improved in the second half solely because he got more more help from Guards Yanda and Shipley. This is a tactic that worked well against a Miami defense missing Dannell Ellerbe, but going forward, will only leave the O line more vulnerable to both run and pass blitzing by more astute inside LB's and defensive coordinators. On the whole, Gradkowski's play has not improved one iota. He is the weak link in this line. Time to give Shipley a shot.




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    Re: Gradkowski must sit

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    PFF is a joke. There's a reason no reputable GM in the league uses them.

    Yesterday, he had his best game if the season. I don't see why you need to then shift the line around the next week after his best outing.

    That's something you build on, not change.
    To prove HoustonRaven's point of PFF being a joke...would you believe that their ratings for our defense yesterday had Terrell Suggs as only the 5th best Ravens defender!?!? Well they did. In fact, they had Suggs with a negative grade in pass rushing. LOL! That's how ridiculous their grading system is. Stick exclusively with Filmstudy in grading the Ravens, or, if you have access to the All 22, grade them yourself. I got PFF premium and it might be the worst money I've spent in my life.




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    Re: Gradkowski must sit

    Quote Originally Posted by Mike B View Post
    Another Gino thread.
    WEll Vinny and Rob have been beating Gino up all year while certain posters
    keep making excuses for him. Vinny just said for Gino to make it he as to
    be really good on techniques because physically he just doesn't have it and
    keeps getting pushed back.

    On Rice's fumble Gino is on the ground with two guys looking down at him
    and a guy jumped over his body and straight into Ray, all on one motion
    for a monster hit. Maybe Ray doesn't fumble at all if Gino does his job
    and hit someone. On at least two plays guys ran by him up the middle while
    he was looking in the opposite direction. The defense was reading his
    eyes (keys).




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    Re: Gradkowski must sit

    Quote Originally Posted by Cj34 View Post
    To prove HoustonRaven's point of PFF being a joke...would you believe that their ratings for our defense yesterday had Terrell Suggs as only the 5th best Ravens defender!?!? Well they did. In fact, they had Suggs with a negative grade in pass rushing. LOL! That's how ridiculous their grading system is. Stick exclusively with Filmstudy in grading the Ravens, or, if you have access to the All 22, grade them yourself. I got PFF premium and it might be the worst money I've spent in my life.
    Exactly.
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    Re: Gradkowski must sit

    Quote Originally Posted by AirFlacco View Post
    WEll Vinny and Rob have been beating Gino up all year while certain posters
    keep making excuses for him. Vinny just said for Gino to make it he as to
    be really good on techniques because physically he just doesn't have it and
    keeps getting pushed back.

    On Rice's fumble Gino is on the ground with two guys looking down at him
    and a guy jumped over his body and straight into Ray, all on one motion
    for a monster hit. Maybe Ray doesn't fumble at all if Gino does his job
    and hit someone. On at least two plays guys ran by him up the middle while
    he was looking in the opposite direction. The defense was reading his
    eyes (keys).
    Well, I heard on the radio that Vinny and Robb hold hands during radio shows because of how in love they are.

    Which is nice when you think about it.


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    I'm done with PFF after reading that. Just wow.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Cj34 View Post
    To prove HoustonRaven's point of PFF being a joke...would you believe that their ratings for our defense yesterday had Terrell Suggs as only the 5th best Ravens defender!?!? Well they did. In fact, they had Suggs with a negative grade in pass rushing. LOL! That's how ridiculous their grading system is. Stick exclusively with Filmstudy in grading the Ravens, or, if you have access to the All 22, grade them yourself. I got PFF premium and it might be the worst money I've spent in my life.
    Lol.

    I'm with HR as we've been critical of PFF since the start.


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    That PFF stuff works in baseball but it's not the same in football. Too many variables
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    Re: Gradkowski must sit

    Quote Originally Posted by Raveninwoodlawn View Post
    Lol.

    I'm with HR as we've been critical of PFF since the start.


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    The PFF references need to get their squirrely asses outta here.
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    Re: Gradkowski must sit

    Here's how PFF works on this board:

    If they say an unpopular player is playing well: they're a joke. If they say he's playing poorly, they're gospel.

    If they say a fan favorite is playing well. Gospel. Poorly? Joke.
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