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    Gradkowski must sit

    I've watched Gino Gradkowski through preseason and 5 games thus far and I have to conclude that this kid is simply not ready for prime time football. Slow line calls, lack of strength and punch at the point of attack, and an inability to handle line stunts in the passing game have spelled disaster for both Guards Yanda, Osomele and the entire O line. A Q Shipley looked especially good subbing for an injured Osomele against the Miami line today. Unlike Gradkowski, this vet showed some " mean " in his game. Going forward, the fortunes of this O line and the entire offense will not change for the better until Shipley moves into the starting Center slot and Monroe replaces Mckinney. What say you?





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    Re: Gradkowski must sit

    No offense, but there are numerous other threads calling for Gino and McKinnie to be benched. Did we really need another?


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    Re: Gradkowski must sit

    Gino plays a decent game and now he should be replaced by a player who hasn't started at center since 2008 at Penn State?!?!

    And that is suppose to help our line problems how exactly?





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    Re: Gradkowski must sit

    I'll wait for Filmstudy's writeup. In my view, Gradkowski and Shipley turned in equal games. Both had rough spots, both seemed to improve in the 2nd half. You could argue that Shipley's is more impressive due to playing LG and without any prep, but I'm not so sure that equates to him being clearly better than Gradkowski.
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    Re: Gradkowski must sit

    Quote Originally Posted by RavenScallywag View Post
    I'll wait for Filmstudy's writeup. In my view, Gradkowski and Shipley turned in equal games. Both had rough spots, both seemed to improve in the 2nd half. You could argue that Shipley's is more impressive due to playing LG and without any prep, but I'm not so sure that equates to him being clearly better than Gradkowski.
    Shipley also doesn't have the wear of 4 games of starting. Doesn't have to rhythm either though so who knows if that balances out.





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    Re: Gradkowski must sit

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    Gino plays a decent game and now he should be replaced by a player who hasn't started at center since 2008 at Penn State?!?!

    And that is suppose to help our line problems how exactly?
    He started four games at center last year for a playoff team.





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    Gradkowski must sit

    Quote Originally Posted by LukeDaniel View Post
    He started four games at center last year for a playoff team.
    My mistake.

    Not sure I'm changing my opinion on the process though. Shuffling the line is not a good solution.
    Last edited by HoustonRaven; 10-07-2013 at 07:24 AM.





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    Re: Gradkowski must sit

    Quote Originally Posted by LukeDaniel View Post
    He started four games at center last year for a playoff team.
    Who traded him for a 7th round pick.


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    Re: Gradkowski must sit

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    Gino plays a decent game and now he should be replaced by a player who hasn't started at center since 2008 at Penn State?!?!

    And that is suppose to help our line problems how exactly?
    He started 5 games last year for the Colts. According to PFF he only surrendered 5 pressures and 0 sacks. Gino had 13 pressures through 4 games, and 2 sacks. Gino has also the worst pass block grade of any center in the league by far. On paper Shipley looks like the better player right now.





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    Re: Gradkowski must sit

    Gino played his best game yesterday, still rough but when you see even yanda getting beat one on one then the whole line is bad..but like i said it gave me hope when 4 out of 5 linemen settled down and played fairly well in the 2nd half.





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    Re: Gradkowski must sit

    Quote Originally Posted by yahoomas View Post
    He started 5 games last year for the Colts. According to PFF he only surrendered 5 pressures and 0 sacks. Gino had 13 pressures through 4 games, and 2 sacks. Gino has also the worst pass block grade of any center in the league by far. On paper Shipley looks like the better player right now.
    PFF is a joke. There's a reason no reputable GM in the league uses them.

    Yesterday, he had his best game if the season. I don't see why you need to then shift the line around the next week after his best outing.

    That's something you build on, not change.





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    Re: Gradkowski must sit

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    PFF is a joke. There's a reason no reputable GM in the league uses them.

    Yesterday, he had his best game if the season. I don't see why you need to then shift the line around the next week after his best outing.

    That's something you build on, not change.
    Their grading system is a joke. However their pressure statistics are more accurate, or as accurate as any other stats website. I`m more worried about the small sample size then PFF somehow being wayyy off with their stats. 5 pressures in 5 games is pretty good. Actually it is only 4, since the last one came from a different game when he was in at LG.

    I think we need to find the best lineup period, and then roll from there. If that means moving several pieces around, then so be it. We moved 3 players prior to the playoffs last year, and it didn`t take long for them to get in sync.





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