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    Re: Ravens brawl in DC?



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    Re: Ravens brawl in DC?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigfish View Post
    This is not a case of youthful indiscretion, McKinnie is 34, Jones is 29. Of all the people on the Ravens who should understand the pitfalls of being a high profile athlete, it's McKinnie. Harbaugh said "I'm disappointed" in the presser, that was definitely an understatement. These guys are making millions and are out at 3am driving around in a party bus emptying champagne bottles with bimbos during the season. It's probably worse than that but that's enough to know. If they can't grow up and aspire to more admirable pursuits, then find a discrete low risk way to enjoy your debauchery that prevents an incident like this from getting headlines and puts your coach on the spot. They should know better.

    Considering where they are contractually and given their behavior, I don't see either here next year.
    Agreed. I agree with Ray on this one. It's like Harbaugh said, what do you want to be remembered for. I would have no problem if he cut both of them today. Screw 'em.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Terpsfan82 View Post
    Agreed. I agree with Ray on this one. It's like Harbaugh said, what do you want to be remembered for. I would have no problem if he cut both of them today. Screw 'em.
    Being the victim of an assault and/or protecting a woman from getting beat by a man gets you ousted from the Ravens these days?
    -JAB




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    Wasn't "Sweet Pea" Popeye the Sailor Man's niece ? ... Bc




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    Quote Originally Posted by JAB1985 View Post
    Being the victim of an assault and/or protecting a woman from getting beat by a man gets you ousted from the Ravens these days?
    plus their contract is already guaranteed, and they would be unemployed until about sundown ...
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    Re: Ravens brawl in DC?

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    Personally, I've never been a strip club/hooker guy myself
    Quote Originally Posted by saintmatthew View Post
    Well, it said A stripper, but obviously there could have been more. Still, even though they are strippers, I get the impression they are stripper's Big Mac KNOWS. They might not have been "working", so to speak. Hell, maybe that's where the disagreement with JJ came in - he felt that type of girl is always working and maybe they were there to have fun with their friend too.
    A friend of mine is a "strip club guy". As a woman, I was curious, so, one day, I went with him (he usually goes for the 4 o'clock games). Spent the evening chatting with the employees between shifts. Next time he went, they asked about me, so I've been back, here and there, in the 4 years since then. In watching the late afternoon games while drinking beer and chatting with dancers, I've learned that they really prefer the word "dancers". Yes, I know they are stripping of their clothes while dancing, but they still really prefer the term "dancers". It's a preference - the word "stripper" doesn't make them mad.

    Equivocating them with hookers, though, makes them head-jutting, finger-jabbing, hand-on-the-hip angry. I mean, really angry. They'll politely smile and say, "I prefer 'dancer', honey," to being called a "stripper", but any kind of suggestion that stripping and hooking are the same kinda thing really does bring about a "I'm going to cause a scene!!!" anger.

    Unless you are trying to set up some sort of off work site private party, you are discreet about it, and you've made it clear you CAN pay for it, of course. Just make sure to make the offer to the right "dancer", or you'll get screaming anger. From what I've heard.




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    Re: Ravens brawl in DC?

    Quote Originally Posted by JAB1985 View Post
    Being the victim of an assault and/or protecting a woman from getting beat by a man gets you ousted from the Ravens these days?
    No, I doubt the organization views the incident like that either. Making bad decisions during the season that cast a bad light on the team and puts your coach on the spot while you collecting millions is how they probably see it. If they are in the news with Sweet Pea, champagne, head busted open in a party bus at 3am during the season, then they screwed up. The doghouse awaits.

    Their contracts run through the year, I don't expect they'll be released for this but I'll wager neither is back next year.




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    Much ado about nothing, rich young guys partying with few strippers on a birthday with an off day the next day after a win. Who cares? If most of us had their $ we'd do it too. But with better looking ladies..... Thats the mistake they made. I bet their teammates are laughing their asses off. Always were helmut.




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    Goodwill by Biscotti and other Ravens that project the Ravens as an exemplary and classy organization is unraveled by headlines such as this. I'm positive that Biscotti as the owner and successful businessman cares.




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    Quote Originally Posted by dreamjo View Post
    A friend of mine is a "strip club guy". As a woman, I was curious, so, one day, I went with him (he usually goes for the 4 o'clock games). Spent the evening chatting with the employees between shifts. Next time he went, they asked about me, so I've been back, here and there, in the 4 years since then. In watching the late afternoon games while drinking beer and chatting with dancers, I've learned that they really prefer the word "dancers". Yes, I know they are stripping of their clothes while dancing, but they still really prefer the term "dancers". It's a preference - the word "stripper" doesn't make them mad.

    Equivocating them with hookers, though, makes them head-jutting, finger-jabbing, hand-on-the-hip angry. I mean, really angry. They'll politely smile and say, "I prefer 'dancer', honey," to being called a "stripper", but any kind of suggestion that stripping and hooking are the same kinda thing really does bring about a "I'm going to cause a scene!!!" anger.

    Unless you are trying to set up some sort of off work site private party, you are discreet about it, and you've made it clear you CAN pay for it, of course. Just make sure to make the offer to the right "dancer", or you'll get screaming anger. From what I've heard.
    If the second oldest profession would just legalize the first oldest profession, there wouldn't be this type of confusion.

    Thanks for the insights. My interactions with "dancers" (back in the day...waaaay back in the day) was of the more business-type of interaction.




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    Let's just put it this way...you can pretty much get anything you want in a strip club if you're willing to pay big bucks and are discreet.

    I'm sure there was more than just "dancing" going on on that party bus.




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    This is such a non story. They were both at the Ravens' facility on Monday doing what they were supposed to do. I can't believe some people are suggesting they get cut. For what? If these guys don't perform on the field then I have no doubt John Harbaugh will find someone else who will perform. I really don't care what these guys do on their off time.




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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnBKistler View Post
    If the second oldest profession would just legalize the first oldest profession, there wouldn't be this type of confusion.
    Completely agree.

    Quote Originally Posted by JohnBKistler View Post
    Thanks for the insights. My interactions with "dancers" (back in the day...waaaay back in the day) was of the more business-type of interaction.
    In talking to them (the incentive for me to go is all of my drinks never end up on the final bill, only some. They're nice to me there), I came to realize why professional athletes date them (besides the obvious). They have a lot in common. Physical jobs that neither can do forever. A crapload of surgeries, and not just the elective ones - ankles, knees are big injuries for them. I can't believe how a dancer who been working for five years + can talk about an ACL....




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    Re: Ravens brawl in DC?

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigfish View Post
    ... Their contracts run through the year, I don't expect they'll be released for this but I'll wager neither is back next year.
    They (McKinnie and JJ) not being on the Ravens in 2014 won't have anything to do with this incident. Mckinnie has stretched his limit at LT, and JJ is already overpaid. Younger players (Wagner or draft choice @ LT and perhaps M. Brown/D. Thompson/Doss @ WR/Kreturns) will fulfill their positions with le$$ spent and more upside... Bc




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    Re: Ravens brawl in DC?

    Nah, it's the human enhancement industry per Tom Cruise's movie-lol.

    Think of the bright side guys, at least he didn't accidently shoot himself with a
    gun in his pants in a club like someone we know. He can still run pass routes although
    he might have a head ache.





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