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    Re: Things in Syria could get interesting...



    Our government sucks. Obama looks like an idiot, his opponent in 08 is a war mongerer and his most recent opponent ran an awful campaign where he couldn't even carry his own state.

    Congress is a clusterfuck full of non-compromising hardliners who's only goal is staying in office and not doing the right thing.

    Good grief.

    That is all.


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    Re: Things in Syria could get interesting...

    Quote Originally Posted by Raveninwoodlawn View Post
    Our government sucks. Obama looks like an idiot, his opponent in 08 is a war mongerer and his most recent opponent ran an awful campaign where he couldn't even carry his own state.

    Congress is a clusterfuck full of non-compromising hardliners who's only goal is staying in office and not doing the right thing.

    Good grief.

    That is all.


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    "Don't worry. It won't be anything like Syria"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raveninwoodlawn View Post
    Congress is a clusterfuck full of non-compromising hardliners who's only goal is staying in office and not doing the right thing.
    I don't know...in general I would agree with you...but on this issue, there seems to be plenty of Congress men and women doing "the right thing".

    Here are several members on both sides of the aisle that are bucking their own leadership and advocating against intervention. It is funny how the mainstream media doesn't report "bipartisanship" when it goes against Dear Leader.

    http://www.politico.com/story/2013/0...5.html?hp=t1_3

    Here is a great video in which a Democratic congressmen, calmly and logically, destroys the emotional and hypothetical arguments of this MSNBC White House mouthpiece for intervention into Syria. Her frustration with his arguments is priceless...

    http://video.msnbc.msn.com/alex-witt/52900021#52900021

    There are plenty of people in Congress on both ends of the political spectrum "doing the right thing" on this issue and they deserve our support and praise...




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    Wow, Grayson is a screwball, who knew I would agree with him on anything or that he could be so coherent on occasion.




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    Obama doesn't have the political capital or trust of the nation (probably due to his numerous scandals) to do a missile strike let alone declare war. based on Romney's rhetoric on the trail in regards to Syria and military spending, I wouldn't be surprised if he would've done it already (or be close to it), but wouldn't catch as much flack. I know, I know, waste of time to assume and such. Assad going down gives the US/Israel more power in the region over Iran and Russia and I'm guessing the Govt (Obama, McCain, graham, etc) feel it's worth it. In the ensuing chaos they are probably betting any al Qaeda or jihadist groups hostile to US/israel there get dealt with by other rebel groups jockeying for power. Hopefully we don't end up doing a thing, but this should be interesting with the debt ceiling stuff coming up...




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    The problem with Syria is the people that Assad's group is fighting against are the exact same ones we're fighting. As a members of the human race I would assume most people in the U.S. find the use of chemical weapons repulsive. But, and there's always a but, the Muslim Brotherhood has made it a point to target civilians in their ongoing war to make the entire world Muslim.

    Two wrongs don't make a right. There's also no way Obama is going to get enough support to strike Syria given that such an action would be helpful to the Muslim Brotherhood.
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    Re: Things in Syria could get interesting...

    Quote Originally Posted by kojo View Post
    Obama doesn't have the political capital or trust of the nation (probably due to his numerous scandals) to do a missile strike let alone declare war. based on Romney's rhetoric on the trail in regards to Syria and military spending, I wouldn't be surprised if he would've done it already (or be close to it), but wouldn't catch as much flack. I know, I know, waste of time to assume and such. Assad going down gives the US/Israel more power in the region over Iran and Russia and I'm guessing the Govt (Obama, McCain, graham, etc) feel it's worth it. In the ensuing chaos they are probably betting any al Qaeda or jihadist groups hostile to US/israel there get dealt with by other rebel groups jockeying for power. Hopefully we don't end up doing a thing, but this should be interesting with the debt ceiling stuff coming up...
    Yep, Obama has lost alot of political capital. It's way he's kicked the issue to Congress, he can't pull it off on his own. I think if Romney was POTUS we would already be in Syria, as he had such a hard line about it during the election.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Dade View Post
    Yep, Obama has lost alot of political capital. It's way he's kicked the issue to Congress, he can't pull it off on his own. I think if Romney was POTUS we would already be in Syria, as he had such a hard line about it during the election.
    I actually appreciate that he went to Congress rather than using "Executive Authority" and do what he wants.

    The reason why I appreciate this is because Congress doesn't seem too willing to get involved in a military campaign against Syria and possibly wind up getting involved with Russia, Iran and China.

    CNN this morning is reporting that Syria might concede their weapons to international control. Apparently Russia would be good with this as well.

    Win, win for everyone IMO.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    I actually appreciate that he went to Congress rather than using "Executive Authority" and do what he wants.

    The reason why I appreciate this is because Congress doesn't seem too willing to get involved in a military campaign against Syria and possibly wind up getting involved with Russia, Iran and China.

    CNN this morning is reporting that Syria might concede their weapons to international control. Apparently Russia would be good with this as well.

    Win, win for everyone IMO.
    Agree on all points.




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    http://edition.cnn.com/2013/09/10/po...html?hpt=hp_t1


    Syria accepts Russia's proposal to disarm.
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    Anyone really believe they're going to disarm?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    Anyone really believe they're going to disarm?
    Not sure yet, but it is a good thing IMO that Russia is backing the disarmament.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    Anyone really believe they're going to disarm?
    No. Plus how exactly will this work in the middle of a violent shooting war? UN Inspectors scouring the war zones? No. Some kind of weeks-long, unenforceable cease-fire? No.

    This is a charade offered by Russia to give Obama a semi-"out" and to help Assad. Assad will hand over a few of his chemical weapons (not all), Russia and Syria will assure everyone that is all they have, Obama will accept it and pretend he disarmed Syria and there is no "need" for action now (despite the fact civilians will continue to get killed by the thousands), the liberal-machine (including the mainstream press) will hail it as a Obama triumph/success, and the sycophants/lemmings will bleat the talking points given.

    It is a very shrewd move by Putin. He understands what makes Obama tick (shallow, political self-interest), and is using that to his advantage.




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