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    Re: Marlon Brown



    This may have been said already on this thread, but I just wanted to comment on the opinion that so many people expressed: that Marlon Brown looks great but couldn't be a #2 this year. I say "Why not?" It's not unprecedented for a receiver to play extremely well despite not being an early round pick. Marques Colston comes to mind. So far this preseason, he has outplayed every WR on the team other than Torrey Smith. I love Jacoby Jones' speed and elusiveness, but he is IMO not a good route runner.

    The only other WR I would consider ahead of Marlon Brown would be Deonte Thompson, but only after he has had a chance to prove he deserves it. I think Deonte may be the most talented WR on the Ravens, but he hasn't earned a starting spot. Until then, I think that Marlon Brown has EARNED the #2 spot, and should be awarded that position until someone else proves they are better.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Gatorman82 View Post
    This may have been said already on this thread, but I just wanted to comment on the opinion that so many people expressed: that Marlon Brown looks great but couldn't be a #2 this year. I say "Why not?" It's not unprecedented for a receiver to play extremely well despite not being an early round pick. Marques Colston comes to mind. So far this preseason, he has outplayed every WR on the team other than Torrey Smith. I love Jacoby Jones' speed and elusiveness, but he is IMO not a good route runner.

    The only other WR I would consider ahead of Marlon Brown would be Deonte Thompson, but only after he has had a chance to prove he deserves it. I think Deonte may be the most talented WR on the Ravens, but he hasn't earned a starting spot. Until then, I think that Marlon Brown has EARNED the #2 spot, and should be awarded that position until someone else proves they are better.
    Just because of the way John Harbaugh runs things, I wouldn't expect to see this by opening day, but maybe at some point during the season, assuming he continues to impress.




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    Quote Originally Posted by RavensRule21215 View Post
    Just because of the way John Harbaugh runs things, I wouldn't expect to see this by opening day, but maybe at some point during the season, assuming he continues to impress.
    I can't argue that. But I'm willing to bet that Harbaugh will give Brown plenty of snaps - even on opening day.




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    Re: Marlon Brown

    Quote Originally Posted by Gatorman82 View Post
    I can't argue that. But I'm willing to bet that Harbaugh will give Brown plenty of snaps - even on opening day.
    No doubt. I think Jacoby will be used as more of a deep threat. Harbaugh even said that he'll have Jacoby on a snap count because of his return duties. That's going to open up snaps for someone like Marlon Brown. He deserves some time. He has caught everything so far.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Gatorman82 View Post
    I can't argue that. But I'm willing to bet that Harbaugh will give Brown plenty of snaps - even on opening day.
    That's what I'm expecting as well.




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    Re: Marlon Brown

    We know this coaching staff likes to bring rookies along slowly. Couple that with the fact that WR is one of the hardest positions to learn at the NFL level, and I would he be shocked if Brown is lining up in 2 WR sets at all this season. Derrick Mason, for example, was in the league 4 years before he got his first start.

    Brown has definitely shown flashes. But you think the coaches will trust him to know the entire playbook, all the hot reads, the entire route tree, all the audibles and terminology, down field blocking, etc, etc? I think a lot of people are putting some pretty lofty hopes on this undrafted rookie.

    I think its going to be Jones getting the majority of those snaps, esp first half of the season. And I wouldn't put it past Ozzie to pick up or trade for a vet to fill that role.




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    Re: Marlon Brown

    Quote Originally Posted by ballhawk View Post
    We know this coaching staff likes to bring rookies along slowly. Couple that with the fact that WR is one of the hardest positions to learn at the NFL level, and I would he be shocked if Brown is lining up in 2 WR sets at all this season. Derrick Mason, for example, was in the league 4 years before he got his first start.

    Brown has definitely shown flashes. But you think the coaches will trust him to know the entire playbook, all the hot reads, the entire route tree, all the audibles and terminology, down field blocking, etc, etc? I think a lot of people are putting some pretty lofty hopes on this undrafted rookie.

    I think its going to be Jones getting the majority of those snaps, esp first half of the season. And I wouldn't put it past Ozzie to pick up or trade for a vet to fill that role.
    I agree, but I think this coaching staff has shown that it will rely on rookies if needed, especially after last year. My feeling is that the being comfortable portion will be more on Flacco and Caldwell to call plays that he is comfortable in running routes in. Brown played in the SEC, so I honestly feel that this will be to big for him. The coaches aren't expecting him to know the entire playbook by week one or even during most of the year, he just needs to know the game plan.




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    Re: Marlon Brown

    Remember that two years ago, LaQuan Williams got a spot on the 53 man roster and suprisingly was in as the #3 WR in the 1st couple weeks.
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    Re: Marlon Brown

    Quote Originally Posted by RavenScallywag View Post
    Remember that two years ago, LaQuan Williams got a spot on the 53 man roster and suprisingly was in as the #3 WR in the 1st couple weeks.
    Against the Jets in 2011. And after really struggling, he never got back on the field with the O. Maybe it shows a willingness on the part of the coaches to give a guy like that a shot, or maybe the will remember that experience and be a little more reluctant to try it again. We shall see.




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    Re: Marlon Brown

    Quote Originally Posted by ballhawk View Post
    Against the Jets in 2011. And after really struggling, he never got back on the field with the O. Maybe it shows a willingness on the part of the coaches to give a guy like that a shot, or maybe the will remember that experience and be a little more reluctant to try it again. We shall see.
    He had targets vs Rams and Jets, and one other game later in the year. My point is, if they see a guy who has promise and might make an impact, they are likely to give him a shot.

    Not saying Marlon would start, but could get a sizeable role if no one else is stepping up.
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    Re: Marlon Brown

    Quote Originally Posted by ballhawk View Post
    We know this coaching staff likes to bring rookies along slowly. Couple that with the fact that WR is one of the hardest positions to learn at the NFL level, and I would he be shocked if Brown is lining up in 2 WR sets at all this season. Derrick Mason, for example, was in the league 4 years before he got his first start.

    Brown has definitely shown flashes. But you think the coaches will trust him to know the entire playbook, all the hot reads, the entire route tree, all the audibles and terminology, down field blocking, etc, etc? I think a lot of people are putting some pretty lofty hopes on this undrafted rookie.

    I think its going to be Jones getting the majority of those snaps, esp first half of the season. And I wouldn't put it past Ozzie to pick up or trade for a vet to fill that role.
    Just bear in mind that Mason was here, and then Boldin. Without those two, there's a sizable gap. (And there's no Pitta either.) And frankly, I think it's a gap that's just too big for Jones to fill. That's the opening that makes this year different than other years. It'll be interesting to see how it all plays out. There are risks any way you slice it.




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    Re: Marlon Brown

    We have started rookies, but they usually were high draft picks and at times circumstances played into it.

    Injury and toncilitis for Flacco to start
    We really wondered about zero Torrey until his 3 TD breakout game.
    Justin Tucker, undrafted and handed the keys to the ranch (so to speak)
    Ray Rice in 2008 was in 13 games, 9of those were single digit carries
    Heap basically sat the first year (Shannon)
    David Reed returned until fumbling surfaced.

    So with Marlon, gotta flip a coin to guess how much of a chance he is given, especially early.
    He should get a chance upcoming to show, and I'm sure the coaches want to see....
    come regular season it is going to depend in part on Deonte, and how much Marlon lights it up this week, with an interim QB or 2.
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    Pump the brakes on Marlon. He has had a nice camp but it's still way early. He had at best an ok( Georgia fans would say disappointing ) career at Georgia and is coming off an injury. If you look at post a few years ago, most were saying how Doss was better than Torrey. Let the season play out. I'm hoping Doss and Brown play great.




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    Quote Originally Posted by celticrob View Post
    Pump the brakes on Marlon. He has had a nice camp but it's still way early. He had at best an ok( Georgia fans would say disappointing ) career at Georgia and is coming off an injury. If you look at post a few years ago, most were saying how Doss was better than Torrey. Let the season play out. I'm hoping Doss and Brown play great.
    thats my biggest issue with Brown is that knee. he looked good one game (4/4), not good another (2/5) and sat out because that knee was swollen, yet people are jumping on his bandwagon like hes our #2. Im happy with what I see out of him so far, but i think that knee and missing time is worrisome if he can only go 1 game or a few practices before needing to rest it. hopefully he plays as well as he did last game this one which makes the call a lot easier. If he plays like he did the first game, we may be looking at finding a way to put him on IR because of that knee. If im not mistaken i believe thats what Dallas wanted to do with him from the start which is why he came here.
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    Re: Marlon Brown

    Marlon Brown's injury history is certainly concerning.
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