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    Ravens are the 9th Most Valuable Franchise in the League

    Per Forbes....

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/mikeozan...ble-nfl-teams/

    We saw a very modest bump after the Super Bowl. We are worth $1.23 Billion. Not bad for a small market team.

    Kind of surprised that the league only makes 15% profit. Seems on the low side.





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    Re: Ravens are the 9th Most Valuable Franchise in the League

    Amazing considering they are tax exempt.





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    Re: Ravens are the 9th Most Valuable Franchise in the League

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigfish View Post
    Amazing considering they are tax exempt.
    The league as a whole is tax exempt, but each team is not. Essentially, because the league takes in post taxed team profits and redistributes them back out to the teams, the unions, the refs, and the pensions of the retired guys, taxing the league on that money would be double dipping.
    My motto was always to keep swinging. Whether I was in a slump or feeling badly or having trouble off the field, the only thing to do was keep swinging. -Hank Aaron





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    Re: Ravens are the 9th Most Valuable Franchise in the League

    Ravens: #9 in value, #1 in achievement.





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    Re: Ravens are the 9th Most Valuable Franchise in the League

    Quote Originally Posted by ActualSpamBot View Post
    The league as a whole is tax exempt, but each team is not. Essentially, because the league takes in post taxed team profits and redistributes them back out to the teams, the unions, the refs, and the pensions of the retired guys, taxing the league on that money would be double dipping.
    Since when did the US government care about preventing "double-dipping" in the tax code? Cough*capital gains*cough.

    But, thanks for the clarification, ASB.





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    Re: Ravens are the 9th Most Valuable Franchise in the League

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigfish View Post
    Amazing considering they are tax exempt.
    Not quite.

    The league is simply a trade organization, consisting of the membership of the teams. They're a not-for-profit under 501(c)(6) status. Much of their profits go back into the league as opposed to being dispersed amongst the admin staff, commissioner, etc.

    Each team is its own business and pays state and federal business taxes just like every other business.





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    Re: Ravens are the 9th Most Valuable Franchise in the League

    Thanks for the info, I'm better informed now. Misinformation is as common as information(Brady blew out an ACL & MCL). I feel duped again. A quick goggle search finds a mind boggling debate. I'll leave the politics for another forum.





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    Re: Ravens are the 9th Most Valuable Franchise in the League

    Quote Originally Posted by Bigfish View Post
    Thanks for the info, I'm better informed now. Misinformation is as common as information(Brady blew out an ACL & MCL). I feel duped again. A quick goggle search finds a mind boggling debate. I'll leave the politics for another forum.
    I don't think it's a political debate.

    Rather, lots of folks don't know his the league is set up. They pay taxes, just not in the traditional way.

    Now if the debate becomes if of how much they should pay, yes, that's more for the politics forum.





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    Re: Ravens are the 9th Most Valuable Franchise in the League

    First of all we're valued more than anyone in the AFC-N with Pissburgh @ #14 with all their glorious trophies. The mistake by the lake is way down.

    Secondly, note how far down the two expansion teams are that got franchises in the 90s. Shows how dumb Tags really was. That's what happens when you hate something and your emotions get in the way of business.

    Thirdly, Rams are further down too after using Bmore and going to a new dome
    before our stadium was built. We dodged a bullet there and wouldn't have
    Bisciotti and Ozzie running the team.

    Finally, Indy is below us too and so is the storied GB and Denver. Well, Irsay finally got something right when he said he could have made more money staying in Bmore.

    It's also noteworthy that the Dolphins tried to get a 1% hotel tax increase to improve
    things for them.
    Last edited by AirFlacco; 08-14-2013 at 11:50 PM.





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    Re: Ravens are the 9th Most Valuable Franchise in the League

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    I don't think it's a political debate.

    Rather, lots of folks don't know his the league is set up. They pay taxes, just not in the traditional way.

    Now if the debate becomes if of how much they should pay, yes, that's more for the politics forum.
    Recent news articles I read were about the senate reviewing the NFL TE status. My limited knowledge was related to this being reported. It doesn't changes facts, just perceptions.





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    Re: Ravens are the 9th Most Valuable Franchise in the League

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    Not quite.

    The league is simply a trade organization, consisting of the membership of the teams. They're a not-for-profit under 501(c)(6) status. Much of their profits go back into the league as opposed to being dispersed amongst the admin staff, commissioner, etc.

    Each team is its own business and pays state and federal business taxes just like every other business.
    Taxing the NFL would be like taxing the Bar Association for every dollar that every law firm in the country made.





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    Re: Ravens are the 9th Most Valuable Franchise in the League

    Look at the operating incomes.

    For that you have to factor in the cost of doing buisness (salaries, taxes, property etc).

    Baltimore made $50M. By comparison the TB and Detroit owners are only making $2.2 and $2.3 M per year after everythng is said and done...(before profit sharing).

    It really shows you how well the Ravens are run that they are experienceing the highest level of success, putting a good product out there, and Bisciotti's still making $50M...

    That's AWESOME for any franchise, yet alone a small market team:

    Operating incomes:

    $250M -DAL
    140 - NE
    104 - DC
    81 -Hou
    64- NYG
    53 -NYJ
    50- BAL
    48- Phil

    That bodes well for Baltimore football fans and the Ravens.
    Last edited by bensmotorcyclehelmt; 08-15-2013 at 12:36 PM.





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