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    Re: Ravens sniffing around Dallas Clark



    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    They tried it before. Didn't make money.
    As far as I know the only official, NFL-backed developmental league from the past was NFL Europe, and it's really no wonder why it failed. I'm talking about a real minor league system in the United States, owned and operated by the NFL.




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    Re: Ravens sniffing around Dallas Clark

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    They tried it before. Didn't make money.
    NFL Europe was pretty cool while it was around.

    Lots of guys developed there and came back to the NFL. Kurt Warner comes to mind.

    Adam Viniatieri, Jake Delhomme, Jay Fiedler, Ruval Martin, Shaun Hill, Israel Idonije, Brian Waters, David Akers, James Harrison, Fred Jackson, Aaron Stecker, Joe Andruzzi...

    There were some good players that developed in NFL Europe. Hell, Warner and Vinatieri are HOF bound.
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    Re: Ravens sniffing around Dallas Clark

    Quote Originally Posted by callahan09 View Post
    As far as I know the only official, NFL-backed developmental league from the past was NFL Europe, and it's really no wonder why it failed. I'm talking about a real minor league system in the United States, owned and operated by the NFL.
    They also had agreements with a couple of independent leagues.

    If they figure out a way to make it profitable, I think we'd see it.
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    Re: Ravens sniffing around Dallas Clark

    I am far from convinced that both Shiancoe & Clark will still be around come Week 1. By all accounts Shiancoe hasn't impressed and the ink's barely dry on Clark's contract. For all we know he may turn out to be washed up when they actually put him on the field (hopefully I'm wrong but it could be the case). I think it's really too early to guess at Furstenburg's fate. Before Pitta's injury my guess would've been PS, and even now think there's a good chance he'll end up there. It's just too early to say. But if I'm Furstenburg and the team tells me they like my play, I wouldn't thumb my nose at a PS spot. Look ahead to 2014: stopgaps like Clark & Shiancoe are likely to be out of football altogether, and either Pitta or Dickson is likely to be playing elsewhere for more $$$. If Furstenburg shows the coaches something, he could have a great opportunity next year.




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    Re: Ravens sniffing around Dallas Clark

    Gotta trust the FO with this, they seem to have a way of reading other teams.
    Example when they signed Chavis Williams to the PS and let Josh Bynes hang out there until Nov 9th 2011.
    So they have a feel.
    I admit I was very surprised when Davon Drew was claimed by Miami, but his career has since born out that the FO up close evaluation of him was correct.

    So with Furstenburg, my concern is that there are injuries (and murder charges) that have depleted any quality veteran.
    I really need to watch Furstenburg's ST skill. If he can contribute there, he will be claimed off our PS as soon as an injury bug bites, and he does have the speed (with size) to be effective if he can tackle.

    I agree with the consensus that he could have a nice role here next year, the caveat is getting him to next year's roster. I really think there is too much potential to risk, but have to just sit back and watch as the FO does its expertise....like others have also said, there is no real lock at TE except for Dickson.
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    Re: Ravens sniffing around Dallas Clark

    I don't think Furstenburg will last on the PS.




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    Re: Ravens sign Dallas Clark

    Clark didn't even try to get his old jersey number 44 from Vonta Leach.

    Instead, he picked 87 to give props to his favorite receiver -- Reggie Wayne.

    Nice move, IMO.

    Per Aaron Wilson on Twitter.
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  8. #212

    Re: Ravens sniffing around Dallas Clark

    Quote Originally Posted by callahan09 View Post
    Ya know, I don't get why the NFL doesn't have a development league. Why should these players have to be stashed on practice squads, a small smattering of players, with the team having no protection or control on them? And then these guys just stagnate there and don't ever actually get to play games, or show what they're capable of. Shouldn't there be a development league so these guys can be kept under team control, and so they can actually play, gain experience, and show what they've got? It seems weird to me.
    My first thought: Tony Pashos




  9. #213

    Re: Ravens sign Dallas Clark

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    Clark didn't even try to get his old jersey number 44 from Vonta Leach.

    Instead, he picked 87 to give props to his favorite receiver -- Reggie Wayne.

    Nice move, IMO.

    Per Aaron Wilson on Twitter.
    I thought Obama had 44...




  10. #214

    Re: Ravens sign Dallas Clark

    Quote Originally Posted by B-more Ravor View Post
    there seems to be a bit of an unwritten rule to not poach PS-eligible guys at the final cutdown
    Patriots. Belichick always says fuck you to unwritten rules. Remember he picked up that injured TE from the Giants last year. Looks smart this year for having done that: it's not as if they couldn't use another TE.

    Patriots or Steelers would each be likely choices to pick up Furstenburg, if we tried to sneak him thru waivers to put him on the practice squad.




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    Re: Ravens sniffing around Dallas Clark

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    They tried it before. Didn't make money.
    Hell, they had it just LAST year! That's where Marty finally won his championship.




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    Re: Ravens sniffing around Dallas Clark

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    Hell, they had it just LAST year! That's where Marty finally won his championship.
    The UFL might've done better had it tried to work directly with the NFL to bill themselves as a minor league system. Part of what I think doomed them was trying to make it on their own two feet.
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