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Thread: Observations
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08-09-2013, 10:00 AM #49Four-eyed Raven
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Re: Observations
That play was a combination of a couple of things. Jones made a bad cut which tipped off Gorrer and allowed him to make a jump on a ball that was thrown late.
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08-09-2013, 10:06 AM #51Veteran Poster
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"The two Jones targets ended in disappointment. The first was intercepted, and Jones deserved “at least half the blame” for it, tweeted The Baltimore Sun’s Matt Vensel. “[It was a] decent ball by Joe, but Jacoby has to come back to the ball there,” he added. The second was a short pass in the middle of the field on third-and-2, where Boldin excels, but the ball clanked off Jones’ hands with tight coverage."
http://www.baltimoreravens.com/news/...8-2bb963a7a819
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08-09-2013, 10:22 AM #54
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You are 100% correct.
Aggressively "walking into/coming back to" an NFL pass is challenging for any WR/TE at first...it's counter-intuitive and jacks-up your timing. Once you can do it consistently and catch it with your hands then you catch any pass, anywhere (with the exception maybe of crossing the middle and hearing those cliché footsteps).
I suspect that JJ12 has never been a confident hands-catching receiver, so him consistently knifing back into a Flacco laser (knowing the limits of his own pass catching abilities) will probably never happen. If anything he'll look to elevate and body-catch it.
Last night, two or three steps before his break, he should have known that pass was at-risk of being picked off b/c of the coverage and the shortcomings of his own skill-set. He's a superior athlete playing WR, but despite his PO heroics, he's pretty much just an average WR in just about every technical element of the position. No one should be fooled."The Ravens are not taking Jimmy Smith at 26!" -- Me, the day before the 2011 Draft
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08-09-2013, 10:25 AM #55Regular 1st Stringer
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Re: Observations
This is why pre-season games are important so players can work on things that need to be corrected, so it will not cost us during the regular season. Hopefully Jacoby will fix it. At the very least he should have tried to fight for the ball, it seemed he made no attempt to do that.
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08-09-2013, 10:26 AM #56
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Look, I think it's pretty clear we need a more dependable #2 receiver going into the season. Jones isn't suddenly going to become Boldin (who made that cut and catch a hundred times with Flacco) and is best suited as a #3 burner + return man. Going into a season with an untested possession guy - even if Doss/Williams/AN Other have a great pre-season (thinking back to the likes of Randy Hymes and Clarence Moore awesome pre-seasons) - is extremely risky to say the least, especially given the dramatic fall-off at TE with Pitta's loss.
We've had Boldin and before that Mason for so long that we forget how shitty it is to be lacking a truly dependable possession guy. I don't necessarily have the answer, but I know we need one.
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Re: Observations
Maybe we don't worry about a #2 WR and just go 2008 and run over everyone.
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08-09-2013, 10:31 AM #58
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I don't think it was an out route; he lined up about 2 yards outside the numbers. Way too wide, yet b/c of that he should have 1) given Gorrer some type of inside move or 2) run right at Gorrer, so that he could have pushed off coming out of his break, forcing Gorrer to fight through him for the ball.
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Re: Observations
a little 2 headed monster.
my concern is Pierce is already dinged up (how bad we don't know) and is seemingly always dinged up. His biggest issue is injury concerns. Seems like every play he comes up limping or hurt, even from last year. I don't know how reliable he will be. He just seems like one of those guys that gets hurt all the time.
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Re: Observations
Yeah, that wasn't a bad throw at all really, maybe a tad late, but Jones really ran a poor route and wasn't aggressive at all.
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