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    Re: Very concerning but nothing......



    Quote Originally Posted by Raveninwoodlawn View Post
    I had and have had minimal debt...maybe it was a poor choice of words, but other than being white, there wasn't much difference. In fact, I know for sure my friend had more debt than I did as I had paid off my student loans and car note whereas he still was making payments on both.

    As for the unprotected demo...of course...white males have been and are in firm control of every aspect of this country. From the Judicial system to the lawmaking system to the financial system, they are run by and large, white males. The reason protections for minorities were and are put in place is because those in control of our country/society either directly or allowed took advantage and in many cases, abused power and minorities were getting completely taken advantage of.

    Those protections weren't and aren't put in there for minorities for no reason.
    Obama, Holder?

    Also, if you put protections in place only for a certain groups, aren't you then discriminating against the group you excluded fro the protection?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raveninwoodlawn View Post
    I had and have had minimal debt...maybe it was a poor choice of words, but other than being white, there wasn't much difference. In fact, I know for sure my friend had more debt than I did as I had paid off my student loans and car note whereas he still was making payments on both.

    As for the unprotected demo...of course...white males have been and are in firm control of every aspect of this country. From the Judicial system to the lawmaking system to the financial system, they are run by and large, white males. The reason protections for minorities were and are put in place is because those in control of our country/society either directly or allowed took advantage and in many cases, abused power and minorities were getting completely taken advantage of.

    Those protections weren't and aren't put in there for minorities for no reason.


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    with your friend still making payments on those loans, that is actually BETTER from a credit perspective. Unless the acount was JUST paid off, as in within the past 90 days, it s BETTER to be open and still making on time payments. Even better still is the last few months right before you pay something off, that is when your credit profile will appear the best to computer "underwriting" systems.

    And again, there is STILL more to the story, time on job, time in fjob field, time at current residence, and most importantly income source, stability and how it relates to your monthly outstanding debt.
    A credit card with a balance between 1/4 and 1/2 of its limit with on-time payemtns is MUCH better then a credit card with no balance. Loans/credit cards with Credit Unions are VERY bad for your credit as compared to normal banks, as they are cheap and screw you over by ONLY submitting late payments to credit reporting agencies, so that everflowing line of "one's" that a normal bank sends for on time payments do not get factored into your score.

    Chapter 13 of Credit Counseling is basically credit suicide until it has finished. Medical collections are for all intents and purposes inconsequential.

    There si a LOT more I could go on forever, needless o say, MOST people have no idea what it takes to seem appealing for banks to lend money to. My parents generations way of goign about it(money int eh bank, only borrowin when necessary, paying credit cards off every month, tc) is one of the WORST ways to do it, despite that seeming exactly the smartest way to do so.

    The credit industry is rigged to reward those that pay lots of interest. In simple terms.




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    Quote Originally Posted by NCRAVEN View Post
    Obama, Holder?

    Also, if you put protections in place only for a certain groups, aren't you then discriminating against the group you excluded fro the protection?
    Do you honestly Thant having Obama and Holder in office for 8 years means that the establishment isn't still controlled by white males? There are 2 big lawmaking houses that act as a check and balance...there are thousands of corporations and banks. Am I to believe that all is well now?

    As for your second point, absolutely not...when that group has a history of discrimination against others, and not towards their own.




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    Re: Very concerning but nothing......

    Quote Originally Posted by Raveninwoodlawn View Post
    Do you honestly Thant having Obama and Holder in office for 8 years means that the establishment isn't still controlled by white males? There are 2 big lawmaking houses that act as a check and balance...there are thousands of corporations and banks. Am I to believe that all is well now?
    What establishment? And either way, that's not what you said.

    Quote Originally Posted by Raveninwoodlawn View Post
    As for your second point, absolutely not...when that group has a history of discrimination against others, and not towards their own.
    So... what you're saying is, two wrongs make a right?
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    Re: Very concerning but nothing......

    Quote Originally Posted by NCRAVEN View Post
    What establishment? And either way, that's not what you said.



    So... what you're saying is, two wrongs make a right?
    The establishment are those that run this country. White males still run this country, still are the vast majority making the rules and laws.

    And, I don't think the protections in place for minorities are a wrong for white males at all...what exactly are these protections that need to be in place for those who are privileged that are so unfair?


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    Although Walsh's system of offense can compensate for lack of talent; however, defense is a different story. According to Walsh, talent on defense was essential and could not be compensated for. What did Walsh do in 1981? He acquired physical and talented players on defense.




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    Re: Very concerning but nothing......

    Quote Originally Posted by Raveninwoodlawn View Post
    And, I don't think the protections in place for minorities are a wrong for white males at all...what exactly are these protections that need to be in place for those who are privileged that are so unfair?
    Protections need to be in place for everyone, not just specific groups. What are we supposed to do when White men are the minority? Retool the laws?
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    Re: Very concerning but nothing......

    Quote Originally Posted by NCRAVEN View Post
    Protections need to be in place for everyone, not just specific groups. What are we supposed to do when White men are the minority? Retool the laws?
    Race and ethnicity is a universally protected class. If someone is denied a job because they're a white person, they have the same standing to sue as any minority. Oddly, that situation comes up somewhat rarely.
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    Quote Originally Posted by NCRAVEN View Post
    Protections need to be in place for everyone, not just specific groups. What are we supposed to do when White men are the minority? Retool the laws?
    If need be, absolutely. Laws are retooled routinely. Our constitution has 27 amendments, our laws are not set in stone.


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    Although Walsh's system of offense can compensate for lack of talent; however, defense is a different story. According to Walsh, talent on defense was essential and could not be compensated for. What did Walsh do in 1981? He acquired physical and talented players on defense.




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    Re: Very concerning but nothing......

    Quote Originally Posted by Raveninwoodlawn View Post
    If need be, absolutely. Laws are retooled routinely. Our constitution has 27 amendments, our laws are not set in stone.


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    Well, we'll just have to agree to disagree. Just because you agree with it doesn't mean you're not discriminating against a group you leave out a protection.
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    Re: Very concerning but nothing......

    Quote Originally Posted by ActualSpamBot View Post
    Race and ethnicity is a universally protected class. If someone is denied a job because they're a white person, they have the same standing to sue as any minority. Oddly, that situation comes up somewhat rarely.
    Or... it could be as that we just don't hear about it, much like the point of the thread.
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    Re: Very concerning but nothing......

    Quote Originally Posted by ActualSpamBot View Post
    Race and ethnicity is a universally protected class. If someone is denied a job because they're a white person, they have the same standing to sue as any minority. Oddly, that situation comes up somewhat rarely.
    I don't think it's as rare as you think.

    My wife is a labor and employment attorney and she has numerous stories of whites being discriminated against.
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    Re: Very concerning but nothing......

    There have been scores of reverse discrimination cases in the last 30 years or so
    by whites who felt they were denied jobs because of their skin color.

    Several states have recently faced legal battles waged by whites claiming they were unfairly treated in favor of protecting and promoting blacks and Hispanics.


    This is what I've been saying about the tables being turned in certain situations



    http://newsone.com/165891/many-white...tion-lawsuits/




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    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    I don't think it's as rare as you think.

    My wife is a labor and employment attorney and she has numerous stories of whites being discriminated against.
    And those whites had the same standing to sue as any minority correct? Hence the characterization that racial protection is only afforded to minorities is inaccurate.
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    Re: Very concerning but nothing......

    Quote Originally Posted by ActualSpamBot View Post
    And those whites had the same standing to sue as any minority correct? Hence the characterization that racial protection is only afforded to minorities is inaccurate.
    I think you need to go back and reread what was being talked about. It wasn't protections for everyone but white people. Protections was probably the wrong word, but it's what was used so everyone kept using it.
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