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    Re: CAMP NOTES August 5: Defense stepping up, WR concerns continue



    Quote Originally Posted by alien bird View Post
    Understood. However, to trade up to #29, the Ravens would have to give up their 1st, and a 4th and 6th to give balanced value. So it would have cost them Elam, and then because they wouldn't have the picks to trade up for Arthur Brown, they may have lost him, too. Nothing works in a vacuum so we don't really know how it would have played out, and every changed pick would create a domino effect, but it's clear the impact on the defense (clearly the focus of the draft) would have been felt. Personally, I would rather be the team with a question mark at the #2 WR spot than several question marks on defense.
    I don't strongly disagree. In fact, I've posted elsewhere on the board that in the overall picture, I think the Ravens are stronger across the board in 2013 than in 2012. The only area I see as a weakness is at the #2 WR spot. And losing Pitta certainly didn't help, but couldn't have been known beforehand. And now with Dickson's gimpy hammy...the picture is getting a bit more serious. I just don't happen to like the group of WRs waiting in the wings, and so far the reports coming out are not glowing in that regard. But we'll see. I still think the Ravens are the team to beat in the AFC North, and I still think that Joe is the best QB in the league when it comes to dealing with mediocre WRs.




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    Re: CAMP NOTES August 5: Defense stepping up, WR concerns continue

    Quote Originally Posted by Mizerooskie View Post
    We all knew the WR situation was going to be a concern.

    Hopefully one of the young guys steps up. Barring that, I think Caldwell gets creative involving Rice and Juice in the passing game. I bet we see lot's of 2-back sets with Pierce and Rice.

    Then Ozzie and Co. can address the position through nest year's draft which is much better (in both depth and quality) at the WR spot than this year's was.
    This is exactly what I was thinking. I feel like we are going to use Rice a lot like how the Pat's used Danny Woodhead in the passing game. Look for Rice to be an option in the slot and used as a 4th receiver out wide. Juice will also be used out wide. He actually spent a significant amount of time there at Harvard. Luckily we now have an OC who tailors our offense around our players and not the other way around.




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    Re: CAMP NOTES August 5: Defense stepping up, WR concerns continue

    There's still a lot of time before the season, I'm not yet resigned to the fact that none of these guys will contribute. Although I'm with everyone else is recognizing this as the biggest question mark coming into the season.

    The running game will be important to bring the safeties into the box leaving favorable single coverage match ups. I expect a lot of Rice coming out of the backfield and 2 back sets with Pierce also.




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    Re: CAMP NOTES August 5: Defense stepping up, WR concerns continue

    Was Devard Darling really that bad? He played pretty well in 2007, while the Ravens had a DISASTROUS quarterback situation.




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    Re: CAMP NOTES August 5: Defense stepping up, WR concerns continue

    Quote Originally Posted by PurpleApocalypse37 View Post
    Was Devard Darling really that bad? He played pretty well in 2007, while the Ravens had a DISASTROUS quarterback situation.
    Darling left the Ravens in the prime of his career for the Chiefs. He did nothing different there than he did here. So I'd say yes, he was that bad
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    Re: CAMP NOTES August 5: Defense stepping up, WR concerns continue

    Quote Originally Posted by The Excellector View Post
    You mean...no Randy Moss..?
    It's not what I mean. It's what Steve is saying the team is looking to do.
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    Re: CAMP NOTES August 5: Defense stepping up, WR concerns continue

    It's a fair question was Devard Darling that bad...in his NFL career, he had the following QBs:

    2004: Kyle Boller
    2005: Boller/Anthony Wright
    2006: Steve McNair
    2007: McNair/Boller/Troy Smith
    2008 (Chiefs): Tyler Thigpen/Damon Huard/Brodie Croyle

    Outside of McNair in 2006 and part of 07, that's pretty crappy QB play. In comparison, on the Chiefs in 2008...Gonzalez and Bowe surpassed 1000 yards. Next highest total was 380 for Mark Bradley, then 272 for Jamaal Charles, then Darling. In 2007, Darling was actually the 3rd best WR yards wise on the team. In 2006, he did not register a single stat.

    He never had great QB play when he had the opportunity to play, but was he being blocked in 2006, or just not good enough to crack the top 4 WR? Our top 3 in 2006 was Mason, Clayton, DWil. The only other WR to even register any catches or yards was Clarence Moore...2 catches for 1 yard.

    Interesting stuff, but I still consider him a bad WR. If he was better, he would've beat out DWil.
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    Re: CAMP NOTES August 5: Defense stepping up, WR concerns continue

    I may be confusing Devard with another receiver, but weren't there issues about him hearing footsteps when he ran other than fly patterns?




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    Re: CAMP NOTES August 5: Defense stepping up, WR concerns continue

    Quote Originally Posted by Beau Petard View Post
    I may be confusing Devard with another receiver, but weren't there issues about him hearing footsteps when he ran other than fly patterns?
    That could be said about a good many of our failed WR projects.

    Namely, I recall it with Clarence Moore. For a big ass WR, he sure didn't seem to do well across the middle of the field.
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    Re: CAMP NOTES August 5: Defense stepping up, WR concerns continue

    Scally, thanks, and my apologies to Darling. I'm pretty sure Moore WAS the guy of whom I was thinking. "Alligator arms" seemed to be a term in vogue when he went across the middle.




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    I find it amusing how all the so called football analyst are talking about the loss of Boldin and Pitta but are not really discussing Pitt's losses from last year. Wallace and Miller lead the team in rec, yards and TDs. There is a good chance that Miller starts the season on PUP which would have him out through week 7 which is the Ravens game. They do not have a guy behind Miller nearly as good as Dickson who caught 54 passes two seasons ago. T smith had more yards and TDs last year than Antonio Brown. It was Smith's second year versus year three for Brown. Sanders is only slightly more productive as a receiver than Jones.

    The big difference is the Ravens Oline and running game should be head and shoulders above the Steelers. The Ravens return a Pro-bowl guard, pro bowl potential guard and very solid tackles. Pitt has a pro bowl center and a bunch of question marks. Ravens return Rice and a very good looking RB in Pierce. Pitt is going to be relying on a rookie running back.

    Why is so much attention being paid to the Ravens losses but Pitt's are being glossed over?




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    Re: CAMP NOTES August 5: Defense stepping up, WR concerns continue

    Quote Originally Posted by srobert96 View Post
    I find it amusing how all the so called football analyst are talking about the loss of Boldin and Pitta but are not really discussing Pitt's losses from last year. Wallace and Miller lead the team in rec, yards and TDs. There is a good chance that Miller starts the season on PUP which would have him out through week 7 which is the Ravens game. They do not have a guy behind Miller nearly as good as Dickson who caught 54 passes two seasons ago. T smith had more yards and TDs last year than Antonio Brown. It was Smith's second year versus year three for Brown. Sanders is only slightly more productive as a receiver than Jones.

    The big difference is the Ravens Oline and running game should be head and shoulders above the Steelers. The Ravens return a Pro-bowl guard, pro bowl potential guard and very solid tackles. Pitt has a pro bowl center and a bunch of question marks. Ravens return Rice and a very good looking RB in Pierce. Pitt is going to be relying on a rookie running back.

    Why is so much attention being paid to the Ravens losses but Pitt's are being glossed over?
    I think most analysts are down on Pitt to begin with. Most are picking either Ravens or Bengals to win the division, not Pitt.

    And when you win a Super Bowl, analysts pay a lot closer attention to what you do. It just so happens we also had probably our most tumultuous offseason in a while at the same time.




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    Re: CAMP NOTES August 5: Defense stepping up, WR concerns continue

    Quote Originally Posted by srobert96 View Post
    I find it amusing how all the so called football analyst are talking about the loss of Boldin and Pitta but are not really discussing Pitt's losses from last year. Wallace and Miller lead the team in rec, yards and TDs. There is a good chance that Miller starts the season on PUP which would have him out through week 7 which is the Ravens game. They do not have a guy behind Miller nearly as good as Dickson who caught 54 passes two seasons ago. T smith had more yards and TDs last year than Antonio Brown. It was Smith's second year versus year three for Brown. Sanders is only slightly more productive as a receiver than Jones.

    The big difference is the Ravens Oline and running game should be head and shoulders above the Steelers. The Ravens return a Pro-bowl guard, pro bowl potential guard and very solid tackles. Pitt has a pro bowl center and a bunch of question marks. Ravens return Rice and a very good looking RB in Pierce. Pitt is going to be relying on a rookie running back.

    Why is so much attention being paid to the Ravens losses but Pitt's are being glossed over?
    Pitt has a larger fan base and a large number of bandwagon fans. Bandwagoner's are usually not very knowledgeable SO - cater to your audience.
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    Re: CAMP NOTES August 5: Defense stepping up, WR concerns continue

    In regards to the WRs "not stepping up" is it possible that it appears that way due to our defense? Some analysts are saying our defense looks like a top 5 unit again. If thats the case our WRs could be facing their toughest competition in practice rather than the regular season. More reason to wait until we face other teams before worrying.
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    Pitt has stated they want to run more which is why they got Bell. It makes sense to try to keep Ben on his feet more. But with a questionable OL against the Ravens improved defensive front, I don't expect they'll have much luck.




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