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    Re: Ten greatest athletes in Baltimore sports history



    Quote Originally Posted by somedumbguy View Post
    Eddie Murray and Sugar Ray Leonard need to at least be on the "deserving of consideration list.
    Disagree.

    Neither were born in MD. Sugar Ray lived in MD but he had no connection to Bmore.
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    How can being one of the best in an athletic sport, not qualify you as an athlete, or as being athletic? Sometimes we really split hairs around here.




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    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    This list from Yahoo should have been called "Ten Greatest Sports Figures" in Baltimore's history.

    Jim Palmer was indeed an amazing pitcher. But athlete? Not so sure.
    why wouldn't palmer be considered a great athlete. he was one of the best hitting pitchers in the league and hitting a baseball is arguably the toughing thing to do in sports.




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    I think that some get hung up on the use of the term athlete. The gist of the story is the 10 greatest Athletes from Baltimore, not the 10 most athletic athletes from Baltimore.

    As to the Babe Ruth vs Micael Phelps discussion:

    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenswintitle View Post
    I think they have to have some national identity to Baltimore, not just being born there or playing when they were kids. That's why I don't think Babe Ruth should be on the list, and he isn't. But Phelps; everyone knows he's a Baltimore guy.

    Phelps is a more famous Baltimorean than Ruth? I don't agree. While Ruth had an 80 year head start, he has a museum & famous statue at Camden Yards. Phelps is well known today, but in a minor niche type sport. e.g. How often do you hear about Mark Spitz today?
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    Re: Ten greatest athletes in Baltimore sports history

    When its all said and done in about 10 years, Tavon Austin will make this list at that point. I expect big things from him, as long as it doesn't come at the Ravens expense (when they play the Rams).




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    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    To me, no. I don't consider Ruth to be a great athlete either. Just because you're good or great at one athletic skill doesn't make one a great athlete.



    Disagree. I think that's precisely the definition of an athlete.



    My bad then. By sports figures, I mean players.
    I guess only Decathletes need apply to your world - all those that have been mentioned are not atheletes by your discription as they only demonstrate athletic ability in limited areas.




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    no EDDIE MURRAY?




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    Re: Ten greatest athletes in Baltimore sports history

    IMO outside of Baltimore or Marylanders, most folks make no association whatsoever of Babe Ruth to Baltimore. I know before I moved there I had no idea there was a claim to fame. He's known as a Red Sox and Yankee.

    Phelps is the most decorated Olympic athlete in history so yes, he is very well recognized.

    No Kyle Boller?
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    You said, "I think that some get hung up on the use of the term athlete. The gist of the story is the 10 greatest Athletes from Baltimore, not the 10 most athletic athletes from Baltimore", and that is where I was coming from with my post about Brooks.

    The guy was an outstanding baseball player, quicker than a cat at 3rd, a regular El Gato! I loved watching him as a kid, and couldn't believe my eyes how he vacuumed anything and everything down the left sideline, made incredible, ballet-like twists and turns, throwing the ball from almost impossible angles and body positions to nab a hitter at first, or start a double play, or whatever. But talk about SLOOOOOOWWWWW on the base paths when he got a hit!!! Thus, he was no Usain Bolt (but I suspect Bolt's no stellar 3rd baseman, either) when he ran for pace, but to me, he was an outstanding athlete.




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    Re: Ten greatest athletes in Baltimore sports history

    Quote Originally Posted by mmi16 View Post
    I guess only Decathletes need apply to your world - all those that have been mentioned are not atheletes by your discription as they only demonstrate athletic ability in limited areas.
    Not at all. Maybe read the whole thread before wrongly characterizing my opinion?
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    Re: Ten greatest athletes in Baltimore sports history

    No votes for Stan Stamenkovic?




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    Re: Ten greatest athletes in Baltimore sports history

    some-
    I'll throw in a vote for The Magician, although I'm still mystified about the details of his death.




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    Re: Ten greatest athletes in Baltimore sports history

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    Disagree.

    Neither were born in MD. Sugar Ray lived in MD but he had no connection to Bmore.
    Most of the people on the list were not born in Maryland. I don't think that is the criteria. The criteria seems to be the connection to Baltimore sports. It's also a list based on regional popularity of a sport, which is fine. Many of the people on the list are not going to be recognized well outside the Baltimore area, and many wouldn't be recognized worldwide.




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    I'm full on board with 9 of the 10.

    I would have to replace Parker with Ogden though.




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    Quote Originally Posted by somedumbguy View Post
    Eddie Murray and Sugar Ray Leonard need to at least be on the "deserving of consideration list.

    I would find a spot for Pam Shriver in the top 10 just for diversity sake, and I think she deserves it.
    Eddie Murray should replace Phelps on the top ten list. Did Phelps have Baltimore written on his speedo when he was swimming in the Olympics?




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