View Poll Results: Who will you blame if the offense still struggles?

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  • Jim Caldwell

    1 3.03%
  • Joe Flacco

    17 51.52%
  • John Harbaugh

    1 3.03%
  • Ozzie Newsome

    10 30.30%
  • The O-Line

    4 12.12%
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    Re: What If It Wasn't Cam?



    Quote Originally Posted by steelerhater View Post
    Actually, he morphed into the great receiver we all knew he could be once Cam was shown the door. It's No coincidence that once we had a coordinator who started planning to players strengths, the offense became very good. Unlike Cameron, Caldwell put round pegs in round holes.
    For some odd reason they all keep ignoring that fact.
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    Re: What If It Wasn't Cam?

    Ya'll ready for Cam yet?
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    Re: What If It Wasn't Cam?

    Quote Originally Posted by JimZipCode View Post
    Yes, and he's not the only one. The Niners first SB win with Montana, those receivers were nothing special. San Deigo's offenses with Cam Cameron, they frequently led the league in scoring, and they were very weak at WR. Hall of Famers at RB and TE, and a great O-line, but squadoosh at WR.

    In general, WRs are the least important component of championship teams. Well, second-least behind FB. If you look at the rosters of the Super Bowl teams year after year, and count up the positions where they have Pro Bowl players, you'll find that FB has the lowest count of Pro Bowlers, and WR the second-lowest. (Thanks to mine and Chris Psuasskicker's friend Patch for those research results.) Championship teams usually have Pro Bowl O-linemen, and DBs, etc. But are not usually built around great receivers.

    There are exceptions. The nineties had several championship teams build with exceptional WRs, including Jerry Rice, Coke-me-up Irvin, Rod Smith & Eddie McCaffrey, etc. But over a long stretch of time, great WRs have not been critical pieces of championship teams.




    Eric Decker was a developing, up-and-coming WR before Manning got there. As a 24yo 2nd-year player he had 600 yds and 8 TDs with Tim Tebow throwing him the ball. Certainly that suggests he could be a thousand-yard guy as he matures, esp with Peyton freakin Manning throwing the football? Demaryius Thomas was a 1st-rd pick. These were not talentless clowns.

    That was part of the point of their getting Manning. They already had guys to put around him, to make a legitimate passing offense.
    Cam's offenses led the league in scoring because of LaDainian Tomlinson.

    Didn't have anything to do with their receivers.
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  4. #169

    Re: What If It Wasn't Cam?

    Quote Originally Posted by Jayc00 View Post
    For some odd reason they all keep ignoring that fact.
    Watching that one slant last night to Smith highlights that. THOSE were the sort of routes Boldin should have been running the whole time he was here. That was his strength. But like with everything else Cameron did, it was a matter of trying to shove a square peg into a round hole.




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    Re: What If It Wasn't Cam?

    Mathematical formula :

    Offense + Caldwell = roll through playoffs and Super Bowl victory.

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  6. #171

    Re: What If It Wasn't Cam?

    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    Cam's offenses led the league in scoring because of LaDainian Tomlinson.

    Didn't have anything to do with their receivers.
    Like Jim said: Hall of Famers at RB and TE, and a great O-line, but squadoosh at WR..

    Cam was a very solid OC for the Ravens , runninggame and OL always pretty good, in RZ his offense was always one of the better in the League, defintive much better than Billicks ever was. We did need the change, if our passinggame should ever improve!

    However we will see if Caldwell will be the answer. The FO/HC has not been helping him so fare. I find it hard to blame our QB or our OC if we will struggle this year, we simply have too little talent on offense.




  7. #172

    Re: What If It Wasn't Cam?

    Quote Originally Posted by BcRaven View Post
    Mathematical formula :

    Offense + Caldwell = roll through playoffs and Super Bowl victory.

    Science at it's best... Bc
    Or another one: Offense - Cameron = roll through playoffs and Super bowl victory. Simple addition by subtraction.




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    Re: What If It Wasn't Cam?

    Quote Originally Posted by steelerhater View Post
    Or another one: Offense - Cameron = roll through playoffs and Super bowl victory. Simple addition by subtraction.
    I'll never believe it was that simple. They were a dropped pass / missed kick away the year before with Cam. Ray retiring last year had a lot to do with the ride but whatever the reasons, its still awesome
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