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07-28-2013, 01:09 AM #49Pro Bowl Poster
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Re: Tight End Options Going Forward
One other thing is for sure: the running game will be front and center this year.
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The only other option ahead of them (other than signing a vet) and behind
Dickson is Baja. Sounds to me these fans want Furstenburg to be big and the Juice too
and we're talking a lot of 2 TE sets here so that spreads it even thinner if Dickson or/and
Baja go down.
Look at NE. Gronk could start the season on IR and Hernandez is in prison.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...-back-surgery/Last edited by AirFlacco; 07-28-2013 at 01:39 AM.
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07-28-2013, 01:40 AM #52Pro Bowl Poster
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07-28-2013, 01:52 AM #53
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You don't replace - it's not a plug and play fantasy league. The Ravens will take what they have and make the appropriate adjustments. That could mean signing a guy or it could mean going with what they have, but it almost certainly means making offensive adjustments and putting the ball somewhere else.
Seriously, if an injury to a TE ruins the entire season, the Ravens weren't that good to begin with.
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07-28-2013, 04:26 AM #54Hyperbolic curmudgeometer
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No & hell no. You don't spend $120M on a QB & then reduce him to handing off just because his favorite target goes down for the season. Once opponents start stacking the box, Joe's going to have to show he was worth his contract this year.
It's certainly wishful thinking to expect KJ or Furstenburg to replace Pitta's production, but considering their college situations (Ivy League; flustercluck at QB) no one really knows what their upsides are.
(Reminds me of my incoming class at at top-5 grad school: Half of us had good grades from topnotch colleges, the other half had straight-A's from mediocre institutions--no one really knew how much [if at all] better than that the latter were.)
It's not unreasonable to hope that one (or both) suddenly has the light go on a la Carlton Fisk (who did diddly in the minors & only blossomed when he reached the parent club). It is, however, unreasonable to expect it.
Seriously, if an injury to a TE ruins the entire season, the Ravens weren't that good to begin with.
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07-28-2013, 06:48 AM #55Veteran Poster
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Re: Tight End Options Going Forward
It's still a fantasy to expect these rookies to step up that big.
What the team will do, I don't know... but Dickson as #1, with Furstenburg and Juice as a possible #2, and Bajema as a blocker aint half bad.
I'd go with it.
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As usual, it's just a good thing the fans aren't running the team.
Flacco was a celebrated #1 draft pick not a little used undrafted player and they were forced to start him when both Troy and Boller went down. Joe eventually became a SB MVP.
Before that they started Boller as a rookie and that was a disaster. When Billick was
asked on TV if the Ravens would start Flacco, he said you asking me, I was just
run out of Baltimore for starting Boller as a rookie. ILMAO
There was absolutely nobody left. Here, Ozzie will bring a a vet to be #2. If SB coach
George Allen were here, we wouldn't even be talking about an undrafted rookie who
had lousy QBs throwing to him. He always traded a bushel of draft picks for vets such
as:
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Allen’s philosophy of “The future is now” led him to trade away a bushel of draft picks for such aging talents as Billy Kilmer, Roy Jefferson, Boyd Dowler, Clifton McNeil, Ron McDole, Verlon Biggs, Jack Pardee (later the ’Skins’ coach), Myron Pottios, Richie Petitbon (also a future head man), John Wilbur and Leslie “Speedy” Duncan. (Three of Allen’s acquisitions went on to become Hall of Famers. Ken Houston and John Riggins enjoyed their prime in Washington while Deacon Jones was playing out the string.)
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07-28-2013, 07:29 AM #57Veteran Poster
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Flacco was considered a talented small-school quarterback with a lot of potential, but would not have seen the field as a rookie, save for medical issues with those in front of him.
And as you've pointed out.. he was the Super Bowl MVP.
I think you're making my point for me.
Ozzie may very well bring in a vet.. but they won't be better than either Furstenburg or KJ as an option for #2 TE
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But more experienced. That is the point. Key word above is "forced." You said
"indulged themselves." Fortunately, it worked out with JOe. It didn't with Boller.
Ravens were forced to go with Joe. Comparing Furstenburg to Joe is mixing apples
and oranges. Furst doesn't have that
kind of talent or experience Joe had like leading Delaware from behind to beat Navy
and Furst would be lucky to be on the practice squard if not for this injury and might
still be on the practice squad.
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07-28-2013, 07:40 AM #59Regular 1st Stringer
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Ravens way. Next man up. Was the case with Suggs, Lewis and Webb.
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Our #2 TE last year had 21 receptions.
I'm kind of dumbfounded that people are making such a huge deal about replacing those numbers. Siancoe couldn't get on the field for a team that loves to feature TE's with injuries at that spot and Dallas Clark is overrated, old and washed up.
The smart move would be to get a "real" #2 WR who can give you the 60-70 receptions that Pitta would have and stop pretending that Jacoby Jones is a starter (and potentially reducing his snaps at his real talent which is returning kicks).
Maybe check out the trade market, or bring in Brandon Lloyd.
Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HDAlthough Walsh's system of offense can compensate for lack of talent; however, defense is a different story. According to Walsh, talent on defense was essential and could not be compensated for. What did Walsh do in 1981? He acquired physical and talented players on defense.
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