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    Re: It's easy to see why Cleveland hates us.



    The Browns oldest fan, who will be celebrating his 106th birthday on October 25th, was asked about his favorite team's playoff chances. He replied, "Playoffs ? What does that word mean?"
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    Re: It's easy to see why Cleveland hates us.

    One thing I give Brown's fans credit for is resiliency. With as bad as the team has been and the economics of the city of Cleveland that means something. Despite the bad economy there and the teams losing streak you still dont hear them mentioned for a move to LA or whatever, like the Jaguars.




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    Re: It's easy to see why Cleveland hates us.

    BC-
    I had to laugh reading your post. It reminded me of a youtube video of that Browns oldest fan...




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    Re: It's easy to see why Cleveland hates us.

    Speaking of Cleveland ..... Kruger thoughts on browns defense being as good as ravens!

    http://www.csnbaltimore.com/blog/rav...se-good-ravens

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    Re: It's easy to see why Cleveland hates us.

    So is Kruger just playing nice with his new team, or could he be serious?

    http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100...re-with-ravens

    Like the article says, " The Ravens' defense was mediocre overall last season and was hammered by injuries." So do you think it's the beat up Ravens that the Browns are on par with, or a healthier Ravens D squad?


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    Re: It's easy to see why Cleveland hates us.

    Anybody who thinks the Browns defense is going to be on par with a healthy traditional Ravens defense, started drinking rather early today.
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    Re: It's easy to see why Cleveland hates us.

    Kruger had to say that, it was what the fans needed to hear. If weeden keeps turning over the ball, the Cleveland defense will get plenty of opportunities to show what they can do. With that in mind, kruger will earn his money this year.




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    Re: It's easy to see why Cleveland hates us.

    Quote Originally Posted by The Excellector View Post
    Anybody who thinks the Browns defense is going to be on par with a healthy traditional Ravens defense, started drinking rather early today.
    Lot of good talent on that D, and a good D Coordinator too. They're short on good corners but they're pass rush may be good enough this year to compensate. Their main problem will be whether or not their O can keep them off the field for a half a game or more.




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    Re: It's easy to see why Cleveland hates us.

    If Haden is healthy, he can more than hold his own. Here's their real issue, and it has been for a few years now. The dirty little secret about their defense is that you can run on it. Kruger won't change that. Plus, neither of their pass rushers are as good as either of ours.

    They will be a top 10 defense, but on par with traditional Ravens defenses? I doubt it.
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    Re: It's easy to see why Cleveland hates us.

    From John Clayton's article on the Browns today:

    "Over the past four years, the Browns are 0-16 against home teams with winning records. League-wide, teams were 24-97 last season on the road against winning teams. "

    Man, that's just kinda sad.




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    Re: It's easy to see why Cleveland hates us.

    You made me google Clayton's article and it's actually a pretty good overview. Expects them to win 6 or 7 at best and explains why.

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    Re: It's easy to see why Cleveland hates us.

    Quote Originally Posted by bacchys View Post
    I don't much care for the above. Your average Cleveland fan wasn't thinking that much about it, and it wasn't the considerations of those fans which put Modell into a squeeze. That was mostly Modell.

    There isn't a single thing you said there which couldn't be (and largely has been) applied to Baltimore fans in the '90s. The politicians crapped on the Colts well before Irsay came along. They were second-fiddle in Memorial Stadium to the Orioles. They couldn't get a stadium deal worked out for a new stadium. Heck, they couldn't even get an equal distribution of Memorial Stadium concession revenues at Colts games.

    Irsay did have legitimate grievances. That doesn't excuse him being a drunken bastard who lied his ass off throughout the moving process or for taking the name, colours, and history with him, but he did have legitimate gripes with the state and city governments. The fans weren't the cause of the gripes. They were just the victims.
    Not quite, the Baltimore city council matched the Indy deal dollar for dollar and guaranteed him the same money Indy did.




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    Re: It's easy to see why Cleveland hates us.

    Quote Originally Posted by saintmatthew View Post
    From John Clayton's article on the Browns today:

    "Over the past four years, the Browns are 0-16 against home teams with winning records. League-wide, teams were 24-97 last season on the road against winning teams. "

    Man, that's just kinda sad.
    What's really sad is that they've only played 16 road games against winning teams in four years. Somehow, it just sounds like a lot less than what the Ravens have faced.
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    Re: It's easy to see why Cleveland hates us.

    Quote Originally Posted by Greg View Post
    Not quite, the Baltimore city council matched the Indy deal dollar for dollar and guaranteed him the same money Indy did.
    Yes, after the ship had sailed.

    Rosenbloom had gripes with the stadium situation before he traded the team to Irsay. Irsay inherited those gripes and added his own. His drunken asshole-ness made it even worse.




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