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    He could be the 6th WR. We might carry 6 this year. Unless we need to carry a 4th TE like Furst.




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    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    Heard something on SXMNFL Radio the resonated with me today.

    Mellette running with the 1's may not be the great scenario everyone thinks it is or indicative of great practices.

    It could also be a "put up or shut up" type situation for him. Pat Kirwin believes that's the case with him, saying he's known many HC's who will put a guy in with the first team as a last straw kind of scenario. He cited the early reports from camp that he wasn't having much success early on, thus the coaches are now justifying the draft pick and throwing him to the wolves. Make or break.

    Makes sense but I'm not sure I buy it fully. Just thought it was an interesting perspective. Kirwin believe Mellette will be anywhere from the 5th WR to a practice squad guy this year.
    It is a win win.

    If he does well - they're geniuses and have a cheap starting caliber receiver for the next 3-4 years.

    If he doesn't - he was a 7th rounder and obviously needs development, but they are willing to play guys who do well in practice.

    Win win.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JustaslowZ06 View Post
    He could be the 6th WR. We might carry 6 this year. Unless we need to carry a 4th TE like Furst.
    I think they will carry 4 TEs and 2 FBs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    Heard something on SXMNFL Radio the resonated with me today.

    Mellette running with the 1's may not be the great scenario everyone thinks it is or indicative of great practices.

    It could also be a "put up or shut up" type situation for him. Pat Kirwin believes that's the case with him, saying he's known many HC's who will put a guy in with the first team as a last straw kind of scenario. He cited the early reports from camp that he wasn't having much success early on, thus the coaches are now justifying the draft pick and throwing him to the wolves. Make or break.

    Makes sense but I'm not sure I buy it fully. Just thought it was an interesting perspective. Kirwin believe Mellette will be anywhere from the 5th WR to a practice squad guy this year.
    since when do 7th rd picks have to put up or shut up? This logic seems more tailored to high round picks. Not guys selected in the 200s.




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    Let's evaluate this, receiver by receiver.

    Jacoby Jones has shown what many of us expected him to show. It's the same thing he showed in Houston. That he can't handle the starting role. The team felt obligated to reward him for how well he handled the 3rd WR/KR role. He really exceeded expectations. Now, he has come back down to earth, because the expectations have heightened.

    Tandan Doss was a guy that many of us felt would make a strong run at time, as long as he stayed healthy. Well, he's stayed healthy, and they still felt compelled to bring back Stokely. Whereas we're used to Doss being seen for his consistent hands, he has not been consistent this training camp and not as physical as his size would dictate.

    Deonte Thompson is the guy who will eventually fill Jacoby Jones' role as the outside WR in three wide sets, once he gets and stays healthy.

    Marlon Brown has shown more potential than Tommie Streeter, but Streeter was so far away to begin with, it doesn't mean Brown is ready for this roster. Streeter came out early and it burned him.

    What else is there in front of Mellette?
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    Quote Originally Posted by bt12483 View Post
    since when do 7th rd picks have to put up or shut up? This logic seems more tailored to high round picks. Not guys selected in the 200s.
    that was my thought. If a 7th round pick is given a shot with the 1st string it's because the others have not been getting it done.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Dirt1 View Post
    If the Ravens don't make a trade, I could see Mellette getting some playing time in Week 1. However, I don't see Wagner as the starting LT going into Denver.
    I don't either but no one saw the line shuffle coming that Harbs pulled last year




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    I'm aligned with the 3 guys above me. I can't see any coach outside of Lombardi or Parcells who would throw a rookie 7th rounder to the wolves...nor is anyone else not wearing #82 doing anything consistently [that I've seen and read].
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    Heard something on SXMNFL Radio the resonated with me today.

    Mellette running with the 1's may not be the great scenario everyone thinks it is or indicative of great practices.

    It could also be a "put up or shut up" type situation for him. Pat Kirwin believes that's the case with him, saying he's known many HC's who will put a guy in with the first team as a last straw kind of scenario. He cited the early reports from camp that he wasn't having much success early on, thus the coaches are now justifying the draft pick and throwing him to the wolves. Make or break.

    Makes sense but I'm not sure I buy it fully. Just thought it was an interesting perspective. Kirwin believe Mellette will be anywhere from the 5th WR to a practice squad guy this year.
    I am not buying that. The guy has shown more in the last 2 preseason games than anyone on the roster not named Smith. Granted, it's with the 2nd and 3rd string defenses, but he has shown that he will run the given route and catch the ball. him running with the 1's is because he, more than anyone else has earned it.




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    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    Heard something on SXMNFL Radio the resonated with me today.

    Mellette running with the 1's may not be the great scenario everyone thinks it is or indicative of great practices.

    It could also be a "put up or shut up" type situation for him. Pat Kirwin believes that's the case with him, saying he's known many HC's who will put a guy in with the first team as a last straw kind of scenario. He cited the early reports from camp that he wasn't having much success early on, thus the coaches are now justifying the draft pick and throwing him to the wolves. Make or break.

    Makes sense but I'm not sure I buy it fully. Just thought it was an interesting perspective. Kirwin believe Mellette will be anywhere from the 5th WR to a practice squad guy this year.
    I don't buy that. If it was Doss I could see that scenario. Mellette was a 7th rounder many did not think would make the team. If they were doing that it would be to shut up the fans clamoring for him to start. I don't know if he will work out but I also don't think they are running him with the ones as a last straw. It just doesn't make sense to me with him being a 7th round rookie.




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    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    Heard something on SXMNFL Radio the resonated with me today.

    Mellette running with the 1's may not be the great scenario everyone thinks it is or indicative of great practices.

    It could also be a "put up or shut up" type situation for him. Pat Kirwin believes that's the case with him, saying he's known many HC's who will put a guy in with the first team as a last straw kind of scenario. He cited the early reports from camp that he wasn't having much success early on, thus the coaches are now justifying the draft pick and throwing him to the wolves. Make or break.

    Makes sense but I'm not sure I buy it fully. Just thought it was an interesting perspective. Kirwin believe Mellette will be anywhere from the 5th WR to a practice squad guy this year.
    Not even entertaining this notion at all, jacoby inconsistent, Doss major disappointment hence the stokely move, Thompson hurt and Reid showing nothing outside of special teams..the team has never done this with other late round reciever as far i know, even when all we had was Derrick Mason and Mark Clayton, i don't remember Clarence Moore running with the 1s or Elon Riley or not even Devard Darling as much. Outside of Torrey Smith who else is lighing it up? If they FO and coaching staff had that muh confidence in the crop they wouldn't sign Stokely and Melette wouldn't even see time with the 1s at all give that he's a 7th rounder if anything it shows the current recieving corp vets outside of Torrey that they are a sorry bunch of muthafuckas letting a 7th round rookie show them up, the fact that he is eating up DBs is every which way shows that the wanna see more of Melette than Doss, Reid and Jones at this point. Melette has done more than Doss and Reid combined right now.




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    Clarence Moore actually got into some games. He lost the Cinci game allowing them to come back late after he caught the ball but didn't crawl forward for the first down. He was afraid of extending his arm and got the name allegator arms.

    That play kept us out of the POs.




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    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    Wagner has been really good at LT against second and third tier guys...saying he could start at LT right now is a bit of a stretch IMO.

    Love the potential, but I don't know about starter. Maybe next year.
    Next year will be just fine. And we'll have Jensen then, too. And Kapron-Moore (SP?) The future is bright




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    Quote Originally Posted by AirFlacco View Post
    Clarence Moore actually got into some games. He lost the Cinci game allowing them to come back late after he caught the ball but didn't crawl forward for the first down. He was afraid of extending his arm and got the name allegator arms.

    That play kept us out of the POs.
    I remember he alligator armed at least 3 passes in the opening night Colts game in 2005...the game where Boller got hurt and fans cheered.

    I was waiting for his "for who, for what?" Statement to the media after the game.

    What a coward.




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    Why would the coaching staff throw a 7th round pick to the wolves? Those guys hardly make the team anyways if not stashed on the PS for development if they show promise. Like i said if anything it shows how sorry the rest of the receivers are outside of Torrey.




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