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    Re: Rodgers or Flacco?



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    Re: Rodgers or Flacco?

    Quote Originally Posted by GOTA View Post
    That's true but under Cam Flacco didn't do anything stat wise that really stood out. I'm betting on the fact that the addition of Caldwell outweighs the loss of any receiver for Flacco.
    Well, he was doing pretty damn good statistically in 2009 until he got injured against the Vikings. And he finished with a QBR of 93.




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    Re: Rodgers or Flacco?

    James Jones, Jordy Nelson and Randall Cobb.

    Packers are stacked at WR.




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    Look at the tape of last years games, Torrey already was getting the #1 CB almost always, and as I have posted several times, Boldin was a 4TD, 65 catch guy. He will not be missed. The combination of Dickson and Pitta, along with the young guys moving up the depth charts, will more than make up for the loss of Boldin. Joe will look like the guy most of us thought he could be, but Cam has been holding him back.




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    Re: Rodgers or Flacco?

    Rodgers or Flacco?

    My answer has to be..... either.

    Yeah, I prefer Joe because I'm Baltimore and have watched him long and often, and haven't followed Rodgers as much or seen him anywhere close to Joe.

    But ask me which QB I want on my team? my answer is either one

    To quote Bum Phillips
    (about Don Shula) "He can take his'n and beat your'n and take your'n and beat his'n."

    Rodgers is a year older, and sat on the bench 3 years (got in 7 games), so they both basically became starting QBs in 2008. He is a year older than Joe and statistically a little ahead of Joe but that can be 3 yrs experience vs rookie (among other factors).
    But you can and will win often with either one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HKusp View Post
    Look at the tape of last years games, Torrey already was getting the #1 CB almost always, and as I have posted several times, Boldin was a 4TD, 65 catch guy. He will not be missed. The combination of Dickson and Pitta, along with the young guys moving up the depth charts, will more than make up for the loss of Boldin. Joe will look like the guy most of us thought he could be, but Cam has been holding him back.
    I agree, and I think Jones is going to have his share of long TD's this year as well.




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    Re: Rodgers or Flacco?

    I mean we all love Joe but I have to admit its basically Rodgers and then the rest. Joe is right there around the top of the "rest" though. And I give GB FO credit for never missing a beat when they lose a WR or two. They've always got another guy waiting in the wings and he's usually just as productive as the one he replaced. They're almost to WRs what the Broncos are to RBs.
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    Re: Rodgers or Flacco?

    Quote Originally Posted by Paintballguy View Post
    James Jones, Jordy Nelson and Randall Cobb.

    Packers are stacked at WR.
    If we had these WRs, no one would be wondering how the loss of Boldin would affect us.




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    Re: Rodgers or Flacco?

    The original post I made was as to Joe Flacco losing 1 WR in FA causing the Ravens hopes to be competitive next season evaporate, while Aaron Rodgers loses 2 WRs in FA and is right on track to make a deep playoff run. That has been answered already, so it's not a question of who would you chose as your teams QB, as much as why doesn't the national sports media talk the same way about the Packers after losing Jennings and Driver as much as they have the Ravens after losing Anquan Boldin?


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    Re: Rodgers or Flacco?

    Quote Originally Posted by Strange Bru View Post
    Why doesn't the national sports media talk the same way about the Packers after losing Jennings and Driver as much as they have the Ravens after losing Anquan Boldin?
    2012
    Boldin- 65 Receptions, 921 Yards, 4 TD
    Jennings and Driver-44 Receptions, 443 Yards, 6 TD

    Not only did Jennings only play in 8 games last year and DD saw the field in just 4, but Boldin doubled their yards, had 33% more receptions, and about the same TD production. DD is one of my all time favorite Packers, but age caught up with him and all the young guys passed him up. Jennings has been banged up the past 2 years. The Packers depth is far more verified than the Ravens at WR, so that is the reason more people think that Rodgers won't miss a beat and it is accurate.

    Boldin is a big loss, not saying it is catastrophic, just saying, it is a way bigger loss than a WR that hasn't been relevant since 2009 and a WR that has been injured just as much as healthy in the past two years.




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    Re: Rodgers or Flacco?

    Why does the national sports media hype on the loss of Boldin? Remember that Boldin made his biggest plays on the biggest stage - the postseason including the Super Bowl. That's what is fresh in the minds of all the pundits. Couple that with the widespread perception (outside of Baltimore) that Flacco is just an average QB with a strong arm and a lot of luck, and you have a recipe titled: "The Sky Is Falling for the Ravens without Anquan Boldin". It's not surprising.

    Contrast that with Aaron Rodgers, whom nobody on the planet considers merely "lucky", and the loss of Jennings and Driver. As packfntk points out, Jennings and Driver weren't big factors in 2012. And Rodgers is generally acknowledged - and rightfully so - as the best in the business, or awfully damned close.

    It's easy to see why the pundits say what they do. Not so easy to understand why it bothers some folks so much. As long as the Ravens win games, the talking heads can say whatever they want.




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    Re: Rodgers or Flacco?

    Rodgers. The things that separate him are his accuracy, release and his ability to make plays on the run. We have a good one, but Rodgers is in a class by himself.




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    He said he gets that the reason for Rodgers over Flacco in the media's collective eye is that the two WR's Rodgers lost only played a little bit last year. Nothing more to see here I guess.




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    Re: Rodgers or Flacco?

    Rodgers is better than flacco, but i will say this, if flacco plays this whole year like he did in the playoffs i will change my opinion. Flacco is a solid qb with a huge arm but to inconsistant/lack of clutch ability is where i see the difference. What that means to me is that you can put the game in rodgers hands and he will win it for you, flacco normally that is not the case, until last years playoffs. Now hes got a big contract to go along with his ring and he will be expected to continue to play that way and i hope he does, because with a contract like that it makes it harder to keep weapons around you and you have to shoulder more weight.




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    Re: Rodgers or Flacco?

    One key reason why there truly isn't a debate to be made yet is, because of the offensive systems the two developed in. Aaron Rodgers was developed into a proven West Coast variation, that suited his strengths coming out of Cal. Then, once he became the starter, Driver and Jennings were already established as one of the best WR tandems in the league.

    Joe was developed in a system that is ideally supposed to utilize his strengths, but was not under the same quality of offensive mind that Rodgers was. Joe was in a system and philosophy that was so reliant on running the ball, they reacted to every little cry about Rice not getting enough carries. Joe would throw a pick, they'd go back to running it. It was far too risk averse for a QB to put up major numbers. It was not a QB friendly system, from a statistical standpoint.

    Now that Joe will have Caldwell for an entire season, I think you are going to see him put up All Pro numbers, especially if his postseason performance is any indication of how well he and Caldwell will work together. By this time next year, this will be an actual debate.
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