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    Re: Jaws' QB Rankings on ESPN



    Thoughts on how the list will shape up?
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    Re: Jaws' QB Rankings on ESPN

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    Thoughts on how the list will shape up?
    8. Eli
    7. Big Ben
    6. Ryan
    5. Flacco
    4. Brees
    3. Peyton
    2. Brady
    1. Rodgers




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    Re: Jaws' QB Rankings on ESPN

    The only reason why I would put Ryan ahead of Roethlisberger is, because Roethlisberger can't stay healthy right now.

    Here's what we've seen from Ryan in the postseason.
    Debut 2008: Fourth quarter interception that sealed a loss to Arizona
    2010 Home Game: Pick Six basically ended the game at half time (Although I will admit that was partly because Rodgers was eating the ass off of that defense).
    2011 Road Game: Zero points on offense. Zero. His deep accuracy was lacking and his confidence was clearly not there in the swirling winds of the Meadowlands. It was so bad that the sorry Falcons defense outscored their own offense.

    2012 was a good postseason year for him.

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    Re: Jaws' QB Rankings on ESPN

    Eli comes in at #8.




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    Quote Originally Posted by HotInHere View Post
    That same simple math was the exact point of the Wildcat. And that proved to be a gimmick, because at the end of the day, your QB has to be able to throw the ball well. If Wilson or RGIII has long-term success in the League, it will be because of their arms, not their legs. Their legs will prove to be a nice-to-have bonus like Steve Young's were.
    The Wildcat is a formation where you typically snap the ball to someone other than your QB. That takes passing out of the equation almost entirely and makes you one-dimensional. When running the read option (a play, not a formation) you run out of a formation that would allow just as easily for the possibility of a pass play. Not at all the same thing.

    Quote Originally Posted by ursula View Post
    The read option isn't a gimmick; using it every play however is a gimmick. Used right, a QB like Kaepernick or Wilson or Luck is that much better without risking his career. But if a QB insists on running too much, read-option or not, he's gonna get hurt and have a shortened career. Vick? RGB3?


    I'd also add that the style of running is important, as wickedsolo alluded to...

    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    Last year whenever Wilson took off, he'd run out of bounds or get down as soon as he was about to get hit.

    Pretty sure Kaep did similar things.

    RGIII would try to juke and fight for extra yards...




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    Re: Jaws' QB Rankings on ESPN

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    Thoughts on how the list will shape up?

    7. Ryan
    6. Flacco
    5. Big Ben
    4. Peyton
    3. Brees
    2. Brady
    1. Rodgers




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    Re: Jaws' QB Rankings on ESPN

    Quote Originally Posted by Kyle Cactus View Post
    7. Ryan
    6. Flacco
    5. Big Ben
    4. Peyton
    3. Brees
    2. Brady
    1. Rodgers
    Yeah, this is how I'm seeing it too.
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    Re: Jaws' QB Rankings on ESPN

    Quote Originally Posted by Kyle Cactus View Post
    7. Ryan
    6. Flacco
    5. Big Ben
    4. Peyton
    3. Brees
    2. Brady
    1. Rodgers
    I think Peyton and Brees may be switched, and if he gives durability a lot of weight, so could Joe and Ben, but at this point it's Rodgers at one and everyone else up to personal preference.
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    Re: Jaws' QB Rankings on ESPN

    Did anyone watch the Steelers last couple of games?

    I don't see anyway that Roethlisberger is ranked ahead of Joe. He is always injured and he also took the Steelers out of the playoff hunt at the end of the year.




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    Quote Originally Posted by ActualSpamBot View Post
    I think Peyton and Brees may be switched, and if he gives durability a lot of weight, so could Joe and Ben, but at this point it's Rodgers at one and everyone else up to personal preference.
    8. Flacco
    7. Eli
    6. Big Ben
    5. Ryan
    4. Brees
    3. Brady
    2. Peyton
    1. Rodgers

    I honestly think Joe will only move up a spot. Based on body of work I think Jaws is going to give more weight to regular season performance and state that Joe is on his way to being a top 5 QB but needs to show high level post and regular season performance.




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    Re: Jaws' QB Rankings on ESPN

    I think Flacco in the 5-7 range makes the most sense. His post season performance was epic. If he continues that trend throughout this season, I could see him jumping up into the top 3 with Rodgers.
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    Re: Jaws' QB Rankings on ESPN

    Quote Originally Posted by Ravens75 View Post
    8. Flacco
    7. Eli
    6. Big Ben
    5. Ryan
    4. Brees
    3. Brady
    2. Peyton
    1. Rodgers

    I honestly think Joe will only move up a spot. Based on body of work I think Jaws is going to give more weight to regular season performance and state that Joe is on his way to being a top 5 QB but needs to show high level post and regular season performance.
    Eli is already listed at 8: http://espnmediazone.com/us/press-re...-qb-countdown/

    I don't know you very well but are you one of those guys that is always hating on Flacco? Nothing personal but if you listed the final 7 I guess Flacco will be 7 but back when there were 30 to go maybe yo have him at 18? How can anybody besides a Falcon homer with their head solidly up Ryan's ass put him ahead of Flacco. Sure, better stats in the regular season with the likes of Roddy White and Julio Jones and who was that other WR they had when he was drafted, plus Gonzalez? n Who were the WRs for Flacco early on? Mason and Clayton, though he did have Heap. Add Boldin and Torrey Smith. Who has had the better receiving corps?




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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg View Post
    Eli is already listed at 8: http://espnmediazone.com/us/press-re...-qb-countdown/

    I don't know you very well but are you one of those guys that is always hating on Flacco? Nothing personal but if you listed the final 7 I guess Flacco will be 7 but back when there were 30 to go maybe yo have him at 18? How can anybody besides a Falcon homer with their head solidly up Ryan's ass put him ahead of Flacco. Sure, better stats in the regular season with the likes of Roddy White and Julio Jones and who was that other WR they had when he was drafted, plus Gonzalez? n Who were the WRs for Flacco early on? Mason and Clayton, though he did have Heap. Add Boldin and Torrey Smith. Who has had the better receiving corps?
    Didn't know Eli was already at 8.

    As for Joe moving up I already stated where Jaws head might be in making his decision. He's already said that he takes into account the body of work (well at least he applies it to whom he chooses) and in looking at that rationale he may put a little more stock into regular season results. With that factor I figure Peyton will be ranked ahead of Brady but its really a coin flip. When you look at Joe compared to other top 5-7 guys his reg. season numbers lag a bit behind. There's no shame though because he wins more than just about every other QB and has come up big in the last two postseasons for sure.

    I've been around a long time and I call it as I see it but am fair. If I hated Flacco I would suggest that he's way overrated at 8 and should be behind RG III or even Phillip Rivers. As for Ryan I have nothing for or against him and don't think he's better than Joe but he is a very good QB and belongs in the top 10.




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    Re: Jaws' QB Rankings on ESPN

    If Jaws is looking at an entire body of work, then that includes the playoffs where Joe played better than literally any other QB in post season NFL history.

    That alone bumps him up IMO; prob Jaws' opinion too.
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    Re: Jaws' QB Rankings on ESPN

    Quote Originally Posted by Ravens75 View Post
    Didn't know Eli was already at 8.

    As for Joe moving up I already stated where Jaws head might be in making his decision. He's already said that he takes into account the body of work (well at least he applies it to whom he chooses) and in looking at that rationale he may put a little more stock into regular season results. With that factor I figure Peyton will be ranked ahead of Brady but its really a coin flip. When you look at Joe compared to other top 5-7 guys his reg. season numbers lag a bit behind. There's no shame though because he wins more than just about every other QB and has come up big in the last two postseasons for sure.

    I've been around a long time and I call it as I see it but am fair. If I hated Flacco I would suggest that he's way overrated at 8 and should be behind RG III or even Phillip Rivers. As for Ryan I have nothing for or against him and don't think he's better than Joe but he is a very good QB and belongs in the top 10.
    How can you think anyone weighs regular season performances higher than playoff performances? Granted Joe hasn't shine during the regular season but his post season performances are amazing. Not only did he just have the greatest post season performance in NFL history, over the past 2 post seasons he's only thrown 1 INT.

    Joe should be ranked 5 or 6.

    7. Ryan
    6. Big Ben
    5. Flacco
    4. Peyton
    3. Brees
    2. Brady
    1. Rodgers




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