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Re: George Zimmerman Trial
I thought the prosecutions closing statement was pretty good. It painted a portrait of a plausible scenario using what little to no evidence there is. I expect the reverse to be said today in similar fashion. What else can you really expect?
-JAB
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In the grand scheme of things it wasn't bad. However, you don't get to say to the jury "you decide" "what do you think". It's here's what we have proven, and they haven't ever proven anything.
I thought the defenses was pretty good, especially the end. Telling the jury if you go back and the first thing you do is, "do I think Zimmerman had a reasonable fear of great bdily harm, you are don, it's over". The ONLY thing I would have done is show the picutre of his nose and ask, if this were you, would you have feared there was going to be more great bodily harm?
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semantics... it is their decision and their opinion on what hes laying out as being true or not. I still think the same can be said in reverse, they didnt exactly PROVE he didnt do it either. although they dont really have to, that burden is on the state. both scenarios are still plausible and fact is well never know those pivotal moments. we have evidence leading up to, and after, but nothing but his word and the word of Jeantell to really decide one way or the other on how it started.
Ill have to check out the defense on monday but I do think without much effort they can have a convincing closing statement. Prosecution gets the last word though.-JAB
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It's not semantics at all. You are not supposed to convict someone of murder on what the prosecution has suggested are possibilities.
I would guess if you were in Zimmermans's shoes you wwouldn't want someone sending you to jail for the rest of your life based on what was plausible. Would that be safe to assume?
Prosecution got the last word and it not only was it fake forced boohoo act (that was clear as day he was faking it) but it was more of Zimmerman lied so that means we proved he murdered out of hate and didn't act in self-defense.
I mean, do you think he didn't act out of self-defense, JAB?
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07-12-2013, 02:19 PM #161Legendary RSR Poster
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The news coverage on this is all over the place lately.
I was watching Today with the wife this morning and both of their legal analysts said Zimmerman will be found guilty. But then I bounced over to CNN and Ashleigh Banfield and the two talking heads she had were convinced he will be acquitted.
To be honest, I have no idea at this point. I thought the defense really lost the momentum going into closing arguments. And I wasn't impressed with their closing either.
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It doesnt matter though. Its their choice ultimately. so saying that its up to them to decide what little evidence we have is enough is all hes saying. Whats he going to say? We cant prove anything so I have no closing statement? Id hope the jury realizes that there isnt enough, but ultimately it is their decision so saying such i have no issue with.
Prosecution got the last word and it not only was it fake forced boohoo act (that was clear as day he was faking it) but it was more of Zimmerman lied so that means we proved he murdered out of hate and didn't act in self-defense.
I mean, do you think he didn't act out of self-defense, JAB?-JAB
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07-12-2013, 02:27 PM #163Legendary RSR Poster
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Here's a biographical breakdown of the jurors. They now have the case.
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Governm...juror-profiles
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How did they get all women on the jury vs a male? It should have been even or
at least 1 or 2 males. Someone was drunk on the defense side when they picked them.
I just beat a rap in traffic court and the female judge is known for giving the max sentence to males, especially guys with DUIs. A friend said you're about the only guy in the county she let go. She said she could give me the max penalty of $1,000 fine and 60 days in jail do you have anything to say for yourself. I said I certainly do and cited a law that protected me. My lawyer said I had a good defense. So finally she dismissed the case and said she was only doing it because of the law and if she ever saw me in her courtroom again she was throwing the book at me. She was a femme nazi. I wonder how many
of the women on this jury are like that.
Also, the TV asked: did the prosecution prove hatred and spite on Zs part? That's all they had to prove - right? I haven't read all these posts but did anyone here say anything about
proving hatred and spite? The hate crime angle was all they had to go on.Last edited by AirFlacco; 07-12-2013 at 03:22 PM.
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Hmmmm... Wh fell asleep when they let B51 get on the jury. And perhaps the last one too. I'm guessing hung jury or manslaughter.
I didn't think so and I didn't really think anyone else did either. I saw a Yahoo! poll while closing arguments were made were 70+% thought he was not guilty....
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Thanks but don't forget, about 70% was vs O BUMMER CARE and the court voted for it
anyway so you never know.
Good point on the hung jury.
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07-12-2013, 04:34 PM #167Veteran Poster
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I think the biggest risk of an all-female jury came about when the judge allowed the manslaughter option.
I think females may be more susceptible to reaching a 'compromise' verdict, since 'compromising' is generally thought to be an admirable endeavor to reconcile differences (or avoid conflict).
Obviously, this is a harmless stereotype, with absolutely no real evidence to support it. :) But I still believe it may be what we see.
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07-12-2013, 04:40 PM #168
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I love the emotional, race baiting ploys all over my facebook newsfeed the last few days... completely ridiculous. Trying to paint Trayvon as some honor student, good kid that was killed in cold blood for no reason for minding his own business... with skittles and tea, lmao
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