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    Re: America's Game



    I think that was to provide commentary for the NFL Top 100. Wasn't he commenting on Pitta's feature?
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    I still think it will be awesome, and I'm looking forward to the show airing, but Ray is truly one of the worst interviews of any player in the league the vast majority of the time.

    I was hoping for Harbaugh, Flacco, Reed, and Tucker...and it's disappointing that we don't have four.




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    Quote Originally Posted by ravensnhokies View Post
    Yea I don't think JJ and America's Game mix. He is too much of a 'jokester' type for that show.

    Instead of Ray, since he already did XXXV, they should have had Reed or Suggs IMO. Since Reed is gone (in addition to his capriciousness), I guess Suggs would have been best. Siz can be serious and grounded when he wants to, but also adds that comedic tone. But I can totally understand why they would pick Ray again. It'll be awesome.

    If the Ravens wouldn't have won the SB this year (say they lost in AFCC again), they would have been a perfect candidate for one of the Missing Rings teams. 5 years in a row in playoffs. 3 AFC Championship appearances with the heartache of Evans and Cundiff last year...... (although the Ravens franchise did win XXXV so that might exclude them)

    In general, wonder why they haven't expanded the MR series? My take is these shows are for franchises that haven't won a SB, so obviously Browns of 86 & Eagles of 04 should have had episodes. Other prime candidates are the Oilers of 78/79 (they were the 2nd best team in the NFL those years), or Titans of 99/00. Guess you could throw in Falcons of 98, Panthers of 03, Jags of 99 (great team and were in the playoffs from 96-99), & Cards of 08 (although a little bit fluky). Have I forgotten any?? Poor Lions fans. Closet thing they got to the SB was 91 and there was no chance they were gonna beat the Skins in the NFCC. (Texans are still relatively new)
    You mentioned the 98 Falcons, but I would actually put the 98 Vikings on that show (or have they already been on?). 15-1; Great backs, great receivers, Cunningham having a renaissance. All wiped out on sure footed Gary Anderson's first miss of the year. I think they would have beaten Elway and Denver had they made it.




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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor View Post
    I still think it will be awesome, and I'm looking forward to the show airing, but Ray is truly one of the worst interviews of any player in the league the vast majority of the time.

    I was hoping for Harbaugh, Flacco, Reed, and Tucker...and it's disappointing that we don't have four.
    Agreed! I think Tucker (as others have mentioned) would have been the perfect character to play off of the heartbreak of Cundiff's shank from the year before. Oh well....




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    Quote Originally Posted by esmd View Post
    I think that was to provide commentary for the NFL Top 100. Wasn't he commenting on Pitta's feature?
    I remember him commenting on Jacoby Jones' feature ("I'm glad I don't have to kick to that guy!"), and on T. Sizzle's ("I can't believe some of the things that come outta that guy's mouth, sometimes!").




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    Quote Originally Posted by riprulz8 View Post
    You mentioned the 98 Falcons, but I would actually put the 98 Vikings on that show (or have they already been on?). 15-1; Great backs, great receivers, Cunningham having a renaissance. All wiped out on sure footed Gary Anderson's first miss of the year. I think they would have beaten Elway and Denver had they made it.
    69 Vikes, 81 Chargers, 88 Bengals, 90 Bills, & the 98 Vikes... Those are 5 MR shows so far.

    Like I mentioned, my take is its for franchises that haven't won a SB. Two of the more storied franchises.. Browns in 86 or 87 and the Eagles either 80 or 04... should have had episodes. Especially since the Vikes had 2 devoted to them.

    I love the series and pretty much have seen every episode (except for the 05 & 08 Steelers + 06 Colts ). I actually found the poignant Missing Rings shows more enjoyable b/c of the heartbreaking endings. The 81 Chargers just won the epic game in Miami and then had to go to the Freezer Bowl in Cincy. Joe goes 92 against Bengals in SB23. Wide Right for Bills 90. And like you said, Anderson's only miss the entire 98 season. The Browns had The Drive and The Fumble against them. 04 Eagles finally got over the hump after losing 3 NFCC in row. Those teams should be celebrated as great teams
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    Quote Originally Posted by ravensnhokies View Post
    69 Vikes, 81 Chargers, 88 Bengals, 90 Bills, & the 98 VikesThose teams should be celebrated as great teams
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    Quote Originally Posted by ravensnhokies View Post
    69 Vikes, 81 Chargers, 88 Bengals, 90 Bills, & the 98 Vikes... Those are 5 MR shows so far.

    Like I mentioned, my take is its for franchises that haven't won a SB. Two of the more storied franchises.. Browns in 86 or 87 and the Eagles either 80 or 04... should have had episodes. Especially since the Vikes had 2 devoted to them.

    I love the series and pretty much have seen every episode (except for the 05 & 08 Steelers + 06 Colts ). I actually found the poignant Missing Rings shows more enjoyable b/c of the heartbreaking endings. The 81 Chargers just won the epic game in Miami and then had to go to the Freezer Bowl in Cincy. Joe goes 92 against Bengals in SB23. Wide Right for Bills 90. And like you said, Anderson's only miss the entire 98 season. The Browns had The Drive and The Fumble against them. 04 Eagles finally got over the hump after losing 3 NFCC in row. Those teams should be celebrated as great teams
    I really hate this narrative, honestly. It makes it sound like the only thing stopping the poor Chargers from winning it all was cold weather. Never mind the fact that the Bengals stomped them even more badly in San Diego in the regular season. Those Chargers teams in general, but especially the 1981 team that gets singled out for some reason, are very overrated.




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    Quote Originally Posted by ravensnhokies View Post
    In general, wonder why they haven't expanded the MR series? My take is these shows are for franchises that haven't won a SB, so obviously Browns of 86 & Eagles of 04 should have had episodes. Other prime candidates are the Oilers of 78/79 (they were the 2nd best team in the NFL those years), or Titans of 99/00. Guess you could throw in Falcons of 98, Panthers of 03, Jags of 99 (great team and were in the playoffs from 96-99), & Cards of 08 (although a little bit fluky). Have I forgotten any?? Poor Lions fans. Closet thing they got to the SB was 91 and there was no chance they were gonna beat the Skins in the NFCC. (Texans are still relatively new)
    +1 on Titans. I really thought they had the best team in the NFL in 2000; bad luck for them to run into our D (possibly the best in NFL history).
    They also had a great team in '08. hmm, wonder who knocked them out that year...
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    Josh Charles needs to narrate this.




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    I love Ray and all, but I would have preferred to see someone else this time. Like maybe Jacoby since he made some big plays, or Reed.




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    I don't see how it couldn't have been Ray. The "Last Ride" story was a huge part of the SB run. Can't properly tell the story without it, IMO.
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    Yeah the "Ray'sLast Ride" deal basically sealed it that he would be on this one. Remember this is to be shown like 50 yrs from now and he's the one that will be remembered most. Possibly Flacco as well at the pace he's moving.




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    Quote Originally Posted by GaTechRavens View Post
    I really hate this narrative, honestly. It makes it sound like the only thing stopping the poor Chargers from winning it all was cold weather. Never mind the fact that the Bengals stomped them even more badly in San Diego in the regular season. Those Chargers teams in general, but especially the 1981 team that gets singled out for some reason, are very overrated.
    I was a Charger fan back then and yea I agree that the 81 team was not as good as the Bengals even in warm weather. But I do think the team era deserves a MR ring show, b/c their offense was so good.

    The best SD team was the 79 team, when they had Fred Dean and the 5th best defense (Joe Gibbs was the OC too.. not too shabby). They absolutely bitchslapped the SB winning Steelers 35-7 in the regular season on their way to the #1 seed. Unfortunately for them, Fouts shit in the bed against the Oilers in the Divisional and threw 5 INTs (4 to Vernon Perry) in their 17-14 loss. Amazingly the Oilers coaching staff figured out all of the Chargers play calls from sidelines, so the Oilers defense knew if the Chargers were gonna run or pass every play. Sure that's a lame excuse for them losing especially with Earl Campbell hurt, but knowing if its a pass or run is a huge advantage. If the Chargers won that Houston game, I guarantee you they would have beat the Steelers in AFCC. They matched up realyl well against that 79 Steeler team and it would have been in SD instead of 'cozy' 3 Rivers. And then the Rams against Chargers in SB14... no contest. Missing Ring to me.

    The 80 SD team was better than the 81 team too... but the cracks started to show with their defense... especially in that AFCC against the Raiders.

    The real reason why NFL films picked the 81 team was b/c of the drama that occurred. Dumping John Jefferson for Wes Chandler. Getting rid of Fred Dean just b/c the owner was so damn cheap (freaking insane!). And then the Epic Dolphins game & the Freezer Bowl. Good stories make better TV. Hell, we all know that the Browns of 86 or 87 would have gotten destroyed in Super Bowls if they actually won one of those AFCC games against Denver. B/c the 86&87 Browns both lost in heartbreaking fashion, NFL Films portrays them as great teams that didn't win the whole thing, instead of realistically what was two good Brown teams in a severely inferior AFC.




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    Quote Originally Posted by ravensnhokies View Post
    I was a Charger fan back then and yea I agree that the 81 team was not as good as the Bengals even in warm weather. But I do think the team era deserves a MR ring show, b/c their offense was so good.

    The best SD team was the 79 team, when they had Fred Dean and the 5th best defense (Joe Gibbs was the OC too.. not too shabby). They absolutely bitchslapped the SB winning Steelers 35-7 in the regular season on their way to the #1 seed. Unfortunately for them, Fouts shit in the bed against the Oilers in the Divisional and threw 5 INTs (4 to Vernon Perry) in their 17-14 loss. Amazingly the Oilers coaching staff figured out all of the Chargers play calls from sidelines, so the Oilers defense knew if the Chargers were gonna run or pass every play. Sure that's a lame excuse for them losing especially with Earl Campbell hurt, but knowing if its a pass or run is a huge advantage. If the Chargers won that Houston game, I guarantee you they would have beat the Steelers in AFCC. They matched up realyl well against that 79 Steeler team and it would have been in SD instead of 'cozy' 3 Rivers. And then the Rams against Chargers in SB14... no contest. Missing Ring to me.

    The 80 SD team was better than the 81 team too... but the cracks started to show with their defense... especially in that AFCC against the Raiders.

    The real reason why NFL films picked the 81 team was b/c of the drama that occurred. Dumping John Jefferson for Wes Chandler. Getting rid of Fred Dean just b/c the owner was so damn cheap (freaking insane!). And then the Epic Dolphins game & the Freezer Bowl. Good stories make better TV. Hell, we all know that the Browns of 86 or 87 would have gotten destroyed in Super Bowls if they actually won one of those AFCC games against Denver. B/c the 86&87 Browns both lost in heartbreaking fashion, NFL Films portrays them as great teams that didn't win the whole thing, instead of realistically what was two good Brown teams in a severely inferior AFC.
    Oh yeah, I have no problem with giving them a show, and the '81 team probably does have the bets narrative. It's just that whenever people put them on "best of" lists - or, right before this year's SB, Phil Simms listing them as the single best team to not reach the Super Bowl, it goes way way way too far.




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