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    Re: Cam Cameron got a ring



    Quote Originally Posted by moose10101 View Post
    http://espn.go.com/blog/afcnorth/pos...-ring-ceremony

    I'm not a jeweler; I just go by what's been written.

    It really depends on whose ring it is. The ring belonging to a fired offensive Coordinator probably is worth $5-$10k. Not sure that Cam Cameron's name adds a darn thing to the actual material value of the ring.

    If that was Joe Flacco's or Ray Lewis' or maybe even Ed Reed's ring (not that they would ever hit the market) are probably worth 7-10 times that amount. If you ever watch Pawn Stars, they have old Super Bowl rings all the time on there. If you watch that show, they will tell you that WHO it belongs too means everything. I would think that a ring belonging even to a obscure player off that team (Sean Considine or Morgan Cox for instance) would be worth 12-15k, simply because they actually played in the Super Bowl.




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    Re: Cam Cameron got a ring

    Giving the ring to his stepdad is a good move all around. Among other things it gets the bling out of sight & out of mind...& in the fullness of time, when Coach Harp passes, you know he'll make sure it comes back to Cam, when the years will have softened the memories & he can treasure it not for how things ended here but for what he helped to build.

    You folks of a Judeo-Christian bent might want to recall that Moses may have led the Israelites out of Egypt but You-know-Who wasn't letting him into the Promised Land either. Not saying anything about Cameron & bull rushes but...




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    Quote Originally Posted by LukeDaniel View Post
    It really depends on whose ring it is. The ring belonging to a fired offensive Coordinator probably is worth $5-$10k. Not sure that Cam Cameron's name adds a darn thing to the actual material value of the ring.

    If that was Joe Flacco's or Ray Lewis' or maybe even Ed Reed's ring (not that they would ever hit the market) are probably worth 7-10 times that amount. If you ever watch Pawn Stars, they have old Super Bowl rings all the time on there. If you watch that show, they will tell you that WHO it belongs too means everything. I would think that a ring belonging even to a obscure player off that team (Sean Considine or Morgan Cox for instance) would be worth 12-15k, simply because they actually played in the Super Bowl.
    Ray Lewis' would be worth a fortune! The ring he earns in his ultimate game, the final game of his career, the Super Bowl, one of the finest and most respected players in NFL history. I bet it would fetch over 100k on a good day.




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    Re: Cam Cameron got a ring

    I don't suppose there's a definitive list of who got rings. Not that I would expect one, but I am kinda curious.

    I wonder if there's a ready reference for every player who was on the 53-man at one time or another during the year, or for every player that was active for at least one RS or PO game. I'm curious as to how many players that would come to.

    You'd think that one of those lists would be the basis for which players got rings so that no one would have reason to feel personally slighted. My guess would be that, minimally, the final 53 plus anyone who saw the field for (some minimum number of plays for) the Ravens in a 2012 or regular season game; maximally, anyone who was ever on the 53-man roster during the season. I wonder what the difference in numbers would be.

    (I know I could probably put those lists together from transactions reports and game-day inactives in the game threads, but I don't have the time to accompany my curiosity...)
    Last edited by lobachevsky; 06-12-2013 at 05:03 PM. Reason: rethinking a bit




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    Re: Cam Cameron got a ring

    I'm actually OK with this. Plus, it fits out M.O. as an organization. Is it clear Cam was the biggest thing holding back our offense, and is it pretty bad that we instantly won a championship without him? Yes and yes. But he was instrumental in making Joe into the solid player that became good to great on his own.

    Plus, he's only said the right things since he left. I believe him when he says he still roots for us and Joe. He a decent guy who laid an important groundwork. He can't help that he was an albatross but management didn't fire him sooner.




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    Re: Cam Cameron got a ring

    Cam was good for Joe's first 3yrs of developing him, bringing him along slowly to the speed of the NFL because of how things played out that made Flacco the starter. To take that next step Cam just couldn't do that with Joe he wouldn't let him make those mistakes in order to grow into what we have now he would pull the plug the minute something went not according to plan. For this Offense and Joe to grow Cam had to go nothin wrong with getting a ring after all if Lee Evans or Cundiff didn't fuck up the season before we would have been to the superbowl and Cam was still the OC then. There wasn't any bad blood for him not to get one; class move by a classy organization and Cam's gesture was classy as well.




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    Quote Originally Posted by akashicrecorder View Post
    I'm actually OK with this. Plus, it fits out M.O. as an organization. Is it clear Cam was the biggest thing holding back our offense, and is it pretty bad that we instantly won a championship without him? Yes and yes. But he was instrumental in making Joe into the solid player that became good to great on his own.

    Plus, he's only said the right things since he left. I believe him when he says he still roots for us and Joe. He a decent guy who laid an important groundwork. He can't help that he was an albatross but management didn't fire him sooner.
    All true. I got no energy to hate on the guy anymore. He can't hurt us from Baton Rouge.

    But I will say this much: that seals it.... I'm ordering a freaking "Fan Ring!"




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    Re: Cam Cameron got a ring

    Quote Originally Posted by Jsmoove View Post
    Cam was good for Joe's first 3yrs of developing him, bringing him along slowly to the speed of the NFL because of how things played out that made Flacco the starter. To take that next step Cam just couldn't do that with Joe he wouldn't let him make those mistakes in order to grow into what we have now he would pull the plug the minute something went not according to plan. For this Offense and Joe to grow Cam had to go nothin wrong with getting a ring after all if Lee Evans or Cundiff didn't fuck up the season before we would have been to the superbowl and Cam was still the OC then. There wasn't any bad blood for him not to get one; class move by a classy organization and Cam's gesture was classy as well.
    Well put. Sometimes when you look at QBs that struggle you only have to look at the constant turnover in OC or head coach. Some of these guys don't have a chance because they're learning a new system every year. Look at Jacksonville - four years four new head coaches. You can never win that way.

    Cam for all his faults was good for Joe and allowed him to grow into the role. Joe showed us he can now read defenses, adjust, audible with the best of them.
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    Re: Cam Cameron got a ring

    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenswintitle View Post
    Well put. Sometimes when you look at QBs that struggle you only have to look at the constant turnover in OC or head coach. Some of these guys don't have a chance because they're learning a new system every year. Look at Jacksonville - four years four new head coaches. You can never win that way.

    Cam for all his faults was good for Joe and allowed him to grow into the role. Joe showed us he can now read defenses, adjust, audible with the best of them.
    Amen brotha amen




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    Re: Cam Cameron got a ring

    Cam was a big reason we won the Superbowl. It was his offense out there. Also, you put Flacco on another team with a coach that that doesn't understand young QBs (especially with how Flacco was coming out of D-II), and you could have had a different story (arguably worse turnout).

    He is in the perfect place right now where he can nurture young guns where his controlling ways actually benefit development to be become pro-ready.

    Very glad he was able to receive a ring.




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    Quote Originally Posted by lobachevsky View Post
    I don't suppose there's a definitive list of who got rings. Not that I would expect one, but I am kinda curious.

    I wonder if there's a ready reference for every player who was on the 53-man at one time or another during the year, or for every player that was active for at least one RS or PO game. I'm curious as to how many players that would come to.

    You'd think that one of those lists would be the basis for which players got rings so that no one would have reason to feel personally slighted. My guess would be that, minimally, the final 53 plus anyone who saw the field for (some minimum number of plays for) the Ravens in a 2012 or regular season game; maximally, anyone who was ever on the 53-man roster during the season. I wonder what the difference in numbers would be.

    (I know I could probably put those lists together from transactions reports and game-day inactives in the game threads, but I don't have the time to accompany my curiosity...)
    I am sure guys who were on the practice squad got them too. I am pretty sure Dennis Dixon got one.




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    Re: Cam Cameron got a ring

    Quote Originally Posted by HKusp View Post
    I am sure guys who were on the practice squad got them too. I am pretty sure Dennis Dixon got one.
    Ah. Et Sergio?*

    Pretty sure he was active & saw the field for at least one game.

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    Re: Cam Cameron got a ring

    Yup Kingle played in one game last season and was cut in Jan so he gets a ring.


    As for the rest, Dick Cass said everyone in the organization gets one and I'm sure that
    includes the announcers and Bruce Bergandy-lol.

    http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/88...avens-released




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    Re: Cam Cameron got a ring

    As much as I dislike Cam, and am glad he will now be coaching against one of my favorite teams instead of for my favorite team, he definitely deserves a ring. He was the OC for 9 of our 10 regular season wins, and was a huge part of our success and consistency over the last 5 years.




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    Re: Cam Cameron got a ring

    Time has given perspective. I was not a Cam fan for the past season or two due to the playcalling but Cam certainly does deserves a ring.

    He was a huge part of this team's success last year AND the previous 4 years. He helped with the development of Flacco.

    How many people when he was drafted worried about Flacco being "thrown to the wolves" and given too much to handle? Cam did a nice job, as likely directed by ozzie, harbs and co. bringing Flacco along slowly.

    IMO that directive ultimately became Cam's undoing. His play calling got stuck and he became predictable and too conservative. But the Ravens would not have been in the position to go to the SB without him.

    If I was the GM of a team with a newly drafted pocket passer, I'd seriosly consider bringing in Cam as a QB coach or O coordinator in a heartbeat. I'd just be ready toi make a change 3-4 years down the line when that QB takes the next step.




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