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    Re: Goodbye Vonta Leach



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    Re: Goodbye Vonta Leach

    Quote Originally Posted by GOTA View Post
    Yup. A lot of people posted the same thing when the story that the Ravens asked him to take a pay cut or get cut came out. I can't believe that Leach or his agent didn't figure this out because it was so clear this offseason.
    Yup.

    I mean, look at John Abraham and Richard Seymour. These are two guys who have consistently been in the upper echelon of defensive linemen and they can't even get the offers that they want.
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    Re: Goodbye Vonta Leach

    James Harrison, etc. It's not a new phenomenon, but every year players and agents do it.
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    Re: Goodbye Vonta Leach

    If Leach does come back to the Ravens, I would think that Ozzie would like to have that deal done before TC starts. Hopefully, we hear something over the next 10 days.




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    Re: Goodbye Vonta Leach

    Quote Originally Posted by PerpetuallyBored74 View Post
    Every team doesn't have Yanda, KO & Leach. And it wouldn't be telegraphing the play completely if the RB might go either on KO's side or on Yanda's side. Of course, you could run other plays from time to time just to be less predictable. And if the opposing defense is really committing itself to stopping the run up the middle, that's when your QB is supposed to read that and audible to a different run play or to a pass play.
    You can actually use being "predictable" to your advantage if in doing so, you make the opposing defense just as predictable, then adjust to take advantage before they can re-adjust.
    You make a great point. "Predictable" can be used as unpredictable by the offensive coordinator. I stand, actually I'm sitting, corrected... Bc




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    Re: Goodbye Vonta Leach

    There's an article logging on to this site called news and notes and it says the longer
    Leach stays un-signed the better chance of his returning and Leach said last week he
    talks to Oz once pr week, so he's still open.

    It would be just like Ozzie to sign him the day before the season starts like he has done
    with others on Ozzie's terms, of course.




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    Re: Goodbye Vonta Leach

    Ideally, Leach comes back here on a 1-2 year deal for vet minimum.
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    Re: Goodbye Vonta Leach

    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    Ideally, Leach comes back here on a 1-2 year deal for vet minimum.
    and every day that passes makes the chances a little higher IMO. The team is OK either way but it would be good to have him this year
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenswintitle View Post
    and every day that passes makes the chances a little higher IMO. The team is OK either way but it would be good to have him this year
    Exactly, purely a luxury...not a necessity. I do want him here though. Sort of bittersweet because if we carry 2 FB's we will probably only carry 2 TE's (given Juice playing the H-back) which means no chance Furstenburg makes the team
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    Re: Goodbye Vonta Leach

    They could always IR Furstenburg or put him on the PS.

    I doubt he'd get signed off the PS.
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    Furstenburg? He's long odds to make the PS, Leach or no Leach. Any third TE needs to be able to be at least a mediocre blocker like Bajema. Furstenburg ain't that.

    Honestly it is hard to see where Furstenburg will get enough touches in training camp to force his way even onto the PS. The team will be developing a bunch of 12 formations that Pitta and Dickson will need to learn and Juice will have a swivel on his head just learning the system. Bajema will soak up the back-up touches. Those three will take all the quality touches in camp and exhibition games.

    For the Ravens, if one or both of Pitta and Dickson leave via free agency next offseason, next year's draft will see TE being a priority. Furstenburg's timing is a year too early.




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    Re: Goodbye Vonta Leach

    Quote Originally Posted by ursula View Post
    Furstenburg? He's long odds to make the PS, Leach or no Leach. Any third TE needs to be able to be at least a mediocre blocker like Bajema. Furstenburg ain't that.

    Honestly it is hard to see where Furstenburg will get enough touches in training camp to force his way even onto the PS. The team will be developing a bunch of 12 formations that Pitta and Dickson will need to learn and Juice will have a swivel on his head just learning the system. Bajema will soak up the back-up touches. Those three will take all the quality touches in camp and exhibition games.

    For the Ravens, if one or both of Pitta and Dickson leave via free agency next offseason, next year's draft will see TE being a priority. Furstenburg's timing is a year too early.
    They'll find a way to keep Furstenburg even if they have to IR him IMO. Both Pitta and Dickson weren't known to be good blockers when they were drafted. In the league now, there is more emphasis on running routes and catching passes as a TE which are what Furstenburg is good at. They can work with him on his blocking.

    Dickson - Is one dimensional, contributing mainly as a receiver. Is an upright runner, causing his routes to be raw and choppy. Not a good blocker. Lacks bulk. Dickson is an intriguing prospect because of his size and athletic ability

    Pitta - The 6-foot-5 Pitta is extremely reliable. Catches passes extremely well on the run and over his shoulders. Can make the acrobatic reception. Has adequate size and speed (4.73). Comes back to the quarterback well. Is a decent threat after the catch. Is an average blocker who has the potential to match up well in-line. Must improve blocking technique. Needs to play with better leverage. Lacks a mean streak.
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    Re: Goodbye Vonta Leach

    tend to agree with Paintball on Furstenburg... blocking is not that difficult to teach if he has the other skills. He's a big strong body so it's just about leverage and positioning. I hope he makes the team
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    I just feel like furstenburg would get snatched up quickly if he was put on the ps. He had multiple offers and got a big bonus from the ravens for a udfa.


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    Re: Goodbye Vonta Leach

    He was mostly used as a blocking TE at Maryland.

    I think the notion that Furstenburg can't block is a little overblown. The truth is none of us really know what he is capable of because MD's offense was so bad the past few years.
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