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    Why do the Ravens need to make a move with this money. Why not roll the cap over to next season to offset some of Joes contract

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    Re: Goodbye Vonta Leach

    man gonna miss this dude just decimating LBs and secondaries they don't make them like him anymore its a dying breed. We will miss you Leach, imagine what it is to be a LB and look over the line to see 44 eyeballing you the whole time..i wouldnt want that ask Patrick Willis.




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    Re: Goodbye Vonta Leach

    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    They won the SB. That's how it turned out.

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    Only because Joe and the offense bailed them out after that 10th ranked D gave up
    almost 500 yards (300 in the air) and 31 points in the SB.

    Then Ozzie gutted that 10th ranked D.

    Maybe this year you'll be right.
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    Re: Goodbye Vontae Leach

    Quote Originally Posted by houstonravensfan View Post
    Unfortunate. Leach was the personification of "Play Like a Raven." Reality overcomes emotion. Again.
    I'm with you. I understand the move, but it still sucks.




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    He's visiting the Dolphins

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    Quote Originally Posted by Justlovemybirds View Post
    He's visiting the Dolphins

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    Would be a huge win for them. I think they could be tough this year.
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    Re: Goodbye Vonta Leach

    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    They won the SB. That's how it turned out.

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    Way to totally avoid my point. You were wrong about last year's defense, even bristling when I dared to broach the subject that the defense of 2012 would not be as good as years past. I even offered a friendly wager (a steak dinner for two at the restaurant of your choice). Predictably, you wouldn't back up your words




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    Re: Goodbye Vontae Leach

    Quote Originally Posted by runrayrun27 View Post
    You know what gives a team an identity? Winning. And that's what this new look Ravens team will do. It's more in line with a faster, athletic league. To suggest they don't have toughness is quite laughable. They have tough trenches on both sides of the ball. And where is this Pollard boner coming from? He is an average strong safety at best. Yes he made what is my favourite play of the run knocking out Ridley, but he was shit in pass coverage and if you haven't watch Elam play he can hit too.

    I'm pumped for the new identity they are going to have this year
    To suggest that the loss of nine starters, including two first ballot Hall of Famers, would not negatively impact a football team is even more laughable.




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    Re: Goodbye Vontae Leach

    Actually, this team is better than the SB team except for Boldin's spot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Terpsfan82 View Post
    To suggest that the loss of nine starters, including two first ballot Hall of Famers, would not negatively impact a football team is even more laughable.
    I love Ed and Ray but neither one was a Hall of Fame caliber player last year. Hell, neither one was even better than middle of the pack, and at times were worse. As for the other starters lost, I don't see a spot on defense where we didn't upgrade the lost guy, and on Offense we lost two over 30 players who cost significantly more than they're worth, and one of them may still come back at a reduced salary. All in all, I think this team is at least as good as last year's, and potentially much better.
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    Re: Goodbye Vontae Leach

    Quote Originally Posted by Terpsfan82 View Post
    To suggest that the loss of nine starters, including two first ballot Hall of Famers, would not negatively impact a football team is even more laughable.
    Both are future HOFers for what they once did, certainly you can't believe it was for anything they did last year.

    Pollard/Reed - Huff/Elam
    Lewis/Ellerbe - Brown/Smith
    Krueger - Dumervil
    Williams - Webb
    Kemo - Williams
    Birk - Gino
    Leach - Juice
    Boldin - Undetermined? Committee?

    We can argue about if these are upgrades, but I think several are. Juice is not going to match Leach as a lead blocker, but he will be more versatile and capable as a weapon. Dumervil is a no-brainer, he has many seasons of success. Reed Lewis and Birk will be 35, 37 and 37 this year. Time takes it's toll on everyone, it was time to move on.




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    Re: Goodbye Vonta Leach

    Quote Originally Posted by ActualSpamBot View Post
    I love Ed and Ray but neither one was a Hall of Fame caliber player last year. Hell, neither one was even better than middle of the pack, and at times were worse. As for the other starters lost, I don't see a spot on defense where we didn't upgrade the lost guy, and on Offense we lost two over 30 players who cost significantly more than they're worth, and one of them may still come back at a reduced salary. All in all, I think this team is at least as good as last year's, and potentially much better.
    I agree for the most part, especially with regards to speed and athleticism at safety and inside linebacker. My concern is the (lack of) identity. With the departed, especially Pollard, Boldin and Leach, we had the identity of being a rough, physical team who, even if you beat them, physically you lost. Hell the Steelers hated playing us because after one of those battles it took two games to recover. We are at a cross roads, IMO because it's going to take while for the replacements to forge an identity of their own.




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