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    Birk Refuses WH Invite

    Just as I'd figured

    Birk boycotts White House visit over abortion issue

    http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...ssue/#comments
    I didn't even realize Oher wasn't there, can't really think of a reason why?

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    For those asking, #Ravens owner Steve Bisciotti didn't attend White House ceremony today because he had an obligation out of state.





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    Re: Ravens at the White House Stream

    Quote Originally Posted by Losac View Post

    It was a cool ceremony and regardless of politics, I imagine it must be a huge thrill to meet the POTUS. .
    Sorry, you couldn't pay me enough to attend an event like this with the current administration. I'll leave it at that to stop from getting the thread moved, but no chance I shake that man's hand.





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    Quote Originally Posted by jonboy79 View Post
    Sorry, you couldn't pay me enough to attend an event like this with the current administration. I'll leave it at that to stop from getting the thread moved, but no chance I shake that man's hand.
    And that's precisely what's wrong with this country.

    There was a time in this country when people from both sides of the fence would sit around and enjoy each others company. Politicians and citizens alike would put aside their political differences and simply be cool to one another.

    The event wasn't political and it was a once in a lifetime chance to go to a place very few will ever see. I couldn't stand Clinton but I jumped at the chance to meet him and go to the White House.

    As for Birk, I support his right to free speech but feel he missed out on an opportunity. Missing that opportunity is his right, too.





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    Re: Ravens at the White House Stream

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    And that's precisely what's wrong with this country.

    There was a time in this country when people from both sides of the fence would sit around and enjoy each others company. Politicians and citizens alike would put aside their political differences and simply be cool to one another.

    The event wasn't political and it was a once in a lifetime chance to go to a place very few will ever see. I couldn't stand Clinton but I jumped at the chance to meet him and go to the White House.

    As for Birk, I support his right to free speech but feel he missed out on an opportunity. Missing that opportunity is his right, too.
    good post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    And that's precisely what's wrong with this country.

    There was a time in this country when people from both sides of the fence would sit around and enjoy each others company. Politicians and citizens alike would put aside their political differences and simply be cool to one another.

    The event wasn't political and it was a once in a lifetime chance to go to a place very few will ever see. I couldn't stand Clinton but I jumped at the chance to meet him and go to the White House.

    As for Birk, I support his right to free speech but feel he missed out on an opportunity. Missing that opportunity is his right, too.
    Absolutely spot on, 100%

    I completely stay away from these forums because the reality is that these and others like it really should be called "Bitch and complain about the other political party" forum...that's all that people post about.

    Civil, common sense compromises? It just won't happen because way too many people take things so personal these days...and the politicians can never have good compromises because they don't want to chance being voted out of office.

    Having 2 different political parties is a good thing. Honestly, this country should have a rivaling 3rd moderate party IMHO. But this country is too large, full of too many different people from different backgrounds with different values for so many to find themselves incapable of valuing new ideas to go along with old ideas...and that is a big problem.

    Getting back to the White house visit...as I said before, I absolutely despised the previous admin, but I respect the office too much and it is too rare of an opportunity for me to see any logic in not going.

    Trying to say going to the White House for a championship celebration is in any way an endorsement of the administration is an absolute and complete joke. Birk has every right to choose to not go, but I have every right to laugh and call him childish. Newsflash to Birk and any other athlete that see's going as an endorsement...WHOEVER WINS A CHAMPIONSHIP GOES TO SEE THE PRESIDENT...no matter who is in office at the time you won. No team or player has ever gotten to choose which president or administration he wants to see on his visit. This visit was no more politically charged than a visit to Bush.

    That goes both ways.
    Although Walsh's system of offense can compensate for lack of talent; however, defense is a different story. According to Walsh, talent on defense was essential and could not be compensated for. What did Walsh do in 1981? He acquired physical and talented players on defense.





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    Re: Ravens at the White House Stream

    Quote Originally Posted by Raveninwoodlawn View Post
    Getting back to the White house visit...as I said before, I absolutely despised the previous admin, but I respect the office too much and it is too rare of an opportunity for me to see any logic in not going.
    Agreed.

    It's about respect of the office, not about the man (or woman one day) who occupies the office.

    I cannot stand our current President politically, but if Obama could call me up tomorrow, wanting to hang out in the Oval Office and I'd be there in two seconds.

    That's not an endorsement of him or his policies and if the topic of politics came up, he'd get an ear full from me.

    The office is larger than any of us or the President himself.





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    Re: Ravens at the White House Stream

    Quote Originally Posted by Raveninwoodlawn View Post
    Getting back to the White house visit...as I said before, I absolutely despised the previous admin, but I respect the office too much and it is too rare of an opportunity for me to see any logic in not going.
    Before the sequestration (and maybe after) it's not that difficult. I have extended family that goes/went at Christmas time. I believe they arranged it through their congressperson.





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    Re: Ravens at the White House Stream

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    And that's precisely what's wrong with this country.

    There was a time in this country when people from both sides of the fence would sit around and enjoy each others company. Politicians and citizens alike would put aside their political differences and simply be cool to one another.

    The event wasn't political and it was a once in a lifetime chance to go to a place very few will ever see. I couldn't stand Clinton but I jumped at the chance to meet him and go to the White House.

    As for Birk, I support his right to free speech but feel he missed out on an opportunity. Missing that opportunity is his right, too.
    I don't disagree with your premise. I would have no issue shaking Bill Clinton's hand, or many democrats. It's THIS administration of Democrats that have not earned even one ounce of respect from me. IT is not the polarized dichotomy of values and ideals that separate us, it is INTENT. IT is my belief that this administration is NOT actively working to improve the status of our nation worldwide, but is in fact intentionally taking this country into the garbage.





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    Quote Originally Posted by jonboy79 View Post
    I don't disagree with your premise. I would have no issue shaking Bill Clinton's hand, or many democrats. It's THIS administration of Democrats that have not earned even one ounce of respect from me. IT is not the polarized dichotomy of values and ideals that separate us, it is INTENT. IT is my belief that this administration is NOT actively working to improve the status of our nation worldwide, but is in fact intentionally taking this country into the garbage.
    Kinda why I felt the way I do/did. If this were anything other than a team event I would refuse too.





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    I just think it's incredibly short sighted. Wwe should be promoting bipartisanship, go and tell Obama "i don't agree with you opinion on X".

    How many of us get an opportunity to speak DIRECTLY to the President? Will he listen, maybe not, but you look like you're trying to work to change someone's mind. Otherwise, to me, just looks you are pouting.

    Also, I was not a supported of GWB...but watching the speech he gave the 2000 Ravens, I thought he was much more cool and confident speaking about them, I felt he gave a much better speech than Obama. And I would still have gone.
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    Re: Ravens at the White House Stream

    Quote Originally Posted by jonboy79 View Post
    IT is my belief that this administration is NOT actively working to improve the status of our nation worldwide, but is in fact intentionally taking this country into the garbage.
    Do us a favor and list all of the Presidents who haven't been accused of that. How many of them held the office in the past 200 years?
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    Quote Originally Posted by moose10101 View Post
    Do us a favor and list all of the Presidents who haven't been accused of that. How many of them held the office in the past 200 years?
    I think his point is that what he feels about this President. Not what other Presidents have been accused of by other people.





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