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    Re: Courtney Upshaw's weight issues



    Ravenswintitle is right.

    But given the nature of this article, I dont see any middle ground.

    I was reading the article as saying, LAST year Upshaw admittedly slacked and THIS year, he's afraid personal issues might get in his way...

    That tell me he's either gotten the message loud and clear (and wants to avoid problems) or he is already making excuses.

    But it's not an issue yet. Talk to me during training camp.




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    Re: Courtney Upshaw's weight issues

    This is the reason why Upshaw fell to the 2nd round. Even Ozzie who obviously like him was willing to lose him rather than spend 1st round money for him. A lot of guys would be pissed they just lost millions of dollars and work their ass off to prove that everyone was wrong. All Upshaw has done is prove that the critics were right.

    Wait until he sees what happens to his buddy Cody on the free agent market next year. I bet he won't be out of shape in 2014 after he sees the real financial impact of that decision.
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    Re: Courtney Upshaw's weight issues

    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenswintitle View Post
    If he's overweight in August, it's a different matter. Now, pfffft
    It's obviously unsettling, but I'll be more worried coming training camp.




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    Re: Courtney Upshaw's weight issues

    Originally Posted by Ravenswintitle
    If he's overweight in August, it's a different matter. Now, pfffft

    Quote Originally Posted by Justlovemybirds View Post
    It's obviously unsettling, but I'll be more worried coming training camp.
    Do not agree at all. When I was his age, I played for a soft ball team, and kept in tip-top shape. No money exchanged hands. Here is a man whose future is partially determined by his weight. If he cannot do it now (at 23) then when ? ... Bc




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    Re: Courtney Upshaw's weight issues

    Quote Originally Posted by bmorecareful View Post
    This is a big year for Courtney Upshaw. He showed well as a run defender last year despite being in poor shape/overweight well into the season, and could have really nailed down a spot for himself in the Ravens' long-term plans if he showed up slimmer and more explosive to add some pass-rushing prowess to his repertoire. Instead, he shows up much bigger even than he was at this time last year and obviously completely out of shape. Don't forget that workout/weight/effort issues dogged Upshaw in college as well, and there is no minimizing what has now become a clear pattern of behavior. He's trending downward and needs to reverse that ASAP.

    This is a year for the Ravens to sort out the future on the edges. Suggs has a cap number in 2014 that can only be justified if he bounces back in a huge way this year--which IMO is unlikely given his age and the amount of wear and tear on his body. The Ravens are clearly committed to a youth movement and Suggs doesn't fit that long-term.

    Dumervil is likely going to see his whole contract, which is pretty reasonable, but that's only 1 spot locked down and he would probably do well to be spelled on at least some run downs. The spot across from him is going to be up for grabs perhaps as soon as 2014, and who locks down that spot? The team might have envisioned Upshaw as that guy, but they were smart enough to get an insurance policy with John Simon. The two are really polar opposites--Upshaw a highly talented, but unrefined and undisciplined player; Simon a workout warrior with limited natural athleticism. We'll see who's the starter and who's the backup come 2014.
    I think this could be exactly why they drafted Simon. Similar run-stopping skill set, but completely different regarding how he takes care of himself.
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    Re: Courtney Upshaw's weight issues

    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    I think this could be exactly why they drafted Simon. Similar run-stopping skill set, but completely different regarding how he takes care of himself.
    Ah wicked, look at the "P. S." of my post #6... Bc




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    Re: Courtney Upshaw's weight issues

    Quote Originally Posted by BcRaven View Post
    Originally Posted by Ravenswintitle
    If he's overweight in August, it's a different matter. Now, pfffft



    Do not agree at all. When I was his age, I played for a soft ball team, and kept in tip-top shape. No money exchanged hands. Here is a man whose future is partially determined by his weight. If he cannot do it now (at 23) then when ? ... Bc
    I'm in no means condoning him and like I said it's unsettling to see him deal with an issue that seemingly the majority of NFL players have under control. At the same I'm glad that he's at least admitting that there's an issue that needs to be resolved and he has the time to do something about it. Should he report to training camp in the same condition then it's a different story




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    Re: Courtney Upshaw's weight issues

    Quote Originally Posted by BcRaven View Post
    Ah wicked, look at the "P. S." of my post #6... Bc
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    Re: Courtney Upshaw's weight issues

    It took Ray Lewis a while to figure out how to take care of his body the right way too. He was the one who had such a big influence on Suggs and how Suggs was taking care of himself.

    If anything, Upshaw should really consult a nutritionist because I guarantee you that most of his issues are in his diet. It isn't easy for a 23 year old to give up on those cheese burgers every other night when that's what he ha sbeen used to doing for so long. Hell, even Flacco eats McNuggets still (right Trap? ) and he's 28.
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    Re: Courtney Upshaw's weight issues

    Didn't Ray hire a chef to make sure he kept eating healthy? Cody, Upshaw & anyone else who's dogged by weight issues ought to take the hint & pitch in as a group to hire one who can make them healthy but tasty suppers at least a few nights a week during TC & the season. It'd probably extend all their careers as well as improving their play. (They wouldn't have to room together, just eat together.)




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    It's concerning...I don't see how anybody can't see it that way. It doesn't mean he'll be fat when the season starts, but to show up 2 years in a row significantly out of shape is the start of a really bad precedent...McKinnie gets absolutely crushed when he does it.

    He needs to watch what he eats...I remember seeing a bunch of junk food and unhealthy stuff on his twitter timeline last year. Hopefully he gets it together and realizes the importance of diets before it's too late.


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    The issue is not the extra weight but the fact that he is not working out. The off season is the time to build up your strength. In season you end up losing weight and struggle to keep muscle on because the demands on your body are so high. He will the weight it will be a drag on his performance similar to Suggs the year after he signed his contract.




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    Re: Courtney Upshaw's weight issues

    Quote Originally Posted by BcRaven View Post
    I'll take the other side from you and wicked here :
    Upshaw was 23 in December 2012. So, what is the "age of consent" for a drivers license, going into military service, marriage license, drinking alcohol, voting, etc? You may be right about maturity, but I'll bet he cashed his paychecks on time... Bc
    Rolando McClain is out of the NFL at 23. This is a job that thousands would be willing to take. You don't always have time to grow into it.

    The point you make is dead on
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    Re: Courtney Upshaw's weight issues

    Quote Originally Posted by Raveninwoodlawn View Post
    It's concerning...I don't see how anybody can't see it that way. It doesn't mean he'll be fat when the season starts, but to show up 2 years in a row significantly out of shape is the start of a really bad precedent...McKinnie gets absolutely crushed when he does it.

    He needs to watch what he eats...I remember seeing a bunch of junk food and unhealthy stuff on his twitter timeline last year. Hopefully he gets it together and realizes the importance of diets before it's too late.


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    2 years in a row???? Has Training camp started yet?




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    Quote Originally Posted by RavensQB View Post
    2 years in a row???? Has Training camp started yet?
    Let McKinnie have showed up to OTA's fat and out of shape...

    Nobody is saying he is a bust or wont contribute. But it is concerning.

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