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    Courtney Upshaw's weight issues



    I'm going to try and give him the benefit of the doubt with regards to his personal problems. I'm expecting him to step up next year and being overweight again is not helping. I would like to see him around 260-265. He's got a long way to go.

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    Re: Courtney Upshaw's weight issues

    I just hope he's realizing this is not good for his career. It sounds that way in the interview, but I hope it's really getting into his head. As it stands, he'll probably get down close to where he wants by end of camp, but if he shows up in shape next year, he can focus solely on improving his technique, and not just on the conditioning.

    As I said before, Suggs used to show up out of shape. After he got his new deal, he showed up on time and in shape and suddenly...the light came on even brighter.
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    Re: Courtney Upshaw's weight issues

    Very disappointing but I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt since he's listing a personal issue as one of the problems.

    I just hope he realizes he's really putting his career at risk right now. Not only are the coaches going to be fed up at some point, but he's going to be more injury prone the more weight he carries.
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    Personal issues are one thing, but i dont think that just excuses it either. If its handled now, Its time to put in the work and come to TC in shape, which there is plenty of time to do. If hes still struggling with this come TC, its going to come off as more of an excuse than anything. Time will tell.
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    285 isn't good. He knows where he's supposed to be. No reason why he can't just hire a diet service to prepare all his meals. Half of Hollywood does that. If he uses food to get through personal issues he's going to have a difficult life.
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    Re: Courtney Upshaw's weight issues

    He was never a lightweight Slim Jim, even when he was drafted. I know that personal issues can throw a curve into your daily life, but he has to understand that he has a professional responsibility to his family, the fans, and especially himself. I'd hate to see such a talented young LBer eat his way out of the NFL... Bc
    P.S. - Upshaw should be following John Simon to the gym, or he will be following Simon onto the football field.




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    Two years in a row equals lazy. I can't think of any personal reasons that would keep you from working out and eating healthy. The only excuse would be a health issue. If he had shown up in shape last year I would give him the benefit of the doubt. Two years in a row is a pattern.




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    According to Steve Davis, he apparently tweets his frequent excursions to clubs, parties and the night life.

    I predict that Upshaw will have a short lived career. Remember this is a guy that was a H.S. and College All American as well as a 2 time National and SB champion all in the last 5-6 years. And to think he probably accomplished all of this (at least his part) in less than optimal shape. Also I would've been ticked when the team signed Elvis for the simple fact that he's taking my spot. Apparently Up seems to be pretty happy about being a backup.

    Bottom line is the kid does not know what hard work is and while he seems to be likable and stays out of trouble he doesn't seem to have the drive to sustain his success when times get tough.

    Hope I am wrong.




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    All of this for being 13LBS over last years playing weight.. BEFORE Training Camp.
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    We talk about these guys like they are mature grown men.

    Physically they may be. In emotions and thought processes they are still kids with no real vision beyond tomorrow.

    When Suggs finally 'grew up' is when he became DPOY - until then he was just a physically talented kid playing the game.




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    Re: Courtney Upshaw's weight issues

    Quote Originally Posted by mmi16 View Post
    We talk about these guys like they are mature grown men.

    Physically they may be. In emotions and thought processes they are still kids with no real vision beyond tomorrow.

    When Suggs finally 'grew up' is when he became DPOY - until then he was just a physically talented kid playing the game.



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    Re: Courtney Upshaw's weight issues

    Quote Originally Posted by mmi16 View Post
    We talk about these guys like they are mature grown men.
    Physically they may be. In emotions and thought processes they are still kids with no real vision beyond tomorrow...
    I'll take the other side from you and wicked here :
    Upshaw was 23 in December 2012. So, what is the "age of consent" for a drivers license, going into military service, marriage license, drinking alcohol, voting, etc? You may be right about maturity, but I'll bet he cashed his paychecks on time... Bc




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    This is a big year for Courtney Upshaw. He showed well as a run defender last year despite being in poor shape/overweight well into the season, and could have really nailed down a spot for himself in the Ravens' long-term plans if he showed up slimmer and more explosive to add some pass-rushing prowess to his repertoire. Instead, he shows up much bigger even than he was at this time last year and obviously completely out of shape. Don't forget that workout/weight/effort issues dogged Upshaw in college as well, and there is no minimizing what has now become a clear pattern of behavior. He's trending downward and needs to reverse that ASAP.

    This is a year for the Ravens to sort out the future on the edges. Suggs has a cap number in 2014 that can only be justified if he bounces back in a huge way this year--which IMO is unlikely given his age and the amount of wear and tear on his body. The Ravens are clearly committed to a youth movement and Suggs doesn't fit that long-term.

    Dumervil is likely going to see his whole contract, which is pretty reasonable, but that's only 1 spot locked down and he would probably do well to be spelled on at least some run downs. The spot across from him is going to be up for grabs perhaps as soon as 2014, and who locks down that spot? The team might have envisioned Upshaw as that guy, but they were smart enough to get an insurance policy with John Simon. The two are really polar opposites--Upshaw a highly talented, but unrefined and undisciplined player; Simon a workout warrior with limited natural athleticism. We'll see who's the starter and who's the backup come 2014.




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    Re: Courtney Upshaw's weight issues

    Quote Originally Posted by RavenScallywag View Post
    As I said before, Suggs used to show up out of shape. After he got his new deal, he showed up on time and in shape and suddenly...the light came on even brighter.
    Your timeline is a little off, or perhaps it's just the way I'm reading it. The first year after signing his new deal, Suggs came in fat and slow, and had an overall season that was well below his standards. After that, he got it. He's not made the same mistake again, and I don't think he ever will. I don't doubt that Ray had a few words with him, too, as the year went on that cemented the lesson for him.

    As an aside, I was listening to a discussion on The Fan the other day about who the new leaders are going to be. The talking heads (I think it was Zinno and Vinnie, but I can't remember). They and most of the callers were panning the idea of Suggs being a leader in the locker room. I think they don't understand leadership, personally. Suggs already is a leader and he's going to be more central in that role, in my expectations, this coming season on the defense. That he's a joker who likes to keep the mood light doesn't negate that. His inculcation of the lesson learned after not being prepared for his first season as a highly-paid "star" in the NFL is evidence of his leadership qualities. He's not Ray. No one else is going to be. But he is and will be a leader on the Ravens. And he'll be a good one.




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    Re: Courtney Upshaw's weight issues

    If he's overweight in August, it's a different matter. Now, pfffft
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