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    British soldiers hacked to death in London by muslim extremists



    http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=d0f_1369235265

    Absolutely disgusting. I don't know what to say, just shocking animal like behavior, and just another example of how our weak government lets just about any animal into our country, this has to stop.




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    Re: British soldiers hacked to death in London by muslim extremists

    Very sad and very disturbing.

    This has my blood boiling on a number of fronts. First, I share your concern, leach, about how anyone an come into your country and our country relatively unchecked.

    Second, as I listened to witness interviews, there was a common theme amongst them of "There was nothing we could do". I am very pro 2nd Amendment and this may have had a different outcome in the states, particularly in Texas. GB has gone to the extreme, IMO, with gun control and this is one of the byproducts. Citizens simply have no way of stopping something like this. Faith is placed on the police, not all of whom are armed, to stop this. Thankfully, the armed police got there and took the necessary action to stop these guys but it was a little too late for the dead man.

    Third, the cavalier attitude and brazeness of the man in the video is haunting. It takes a special type of psycho to do what he did and then be so in your face about it.
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    Re: British soldiers hacked to death in London by muslim extremists

    Description of one of the attackers:

    According to BBC sources, Mr Adebolajo, a Briton of Nigerian descent, comes from a devout Christian family but took up Islam after leaving college in 2001.

    So that's at least 50% of those involved, and not an immigration issue in sight.

    But hey. Whatever. Immigrants! Kick em out! Rabble rabble!




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    Re: British soldiers hacked to death in London by muslim extremists

    Quote Originally Posted by Lee Van Cleef View Post
    Description of one of the attackers:

    According to BBC sources, Mr Adebolajo, a Briton of Nigerian descent, comes from a devout Christian family but took up Islam after leaving college in 2001.

    So that's at least 50% of those involved, and not an immigration issue in sight.

    But hey. Whatever. Immigrants! Kick em out! Rabble rabble!
    And you really think he wasn't brainwashed/convinced by a muslim extremist who immigrated over here? These animals are probably involved in an organization of some form that likely contains several arabic immigrants.




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    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    Very sad and very disturbing.

    This has my blood boiling on a number of fronts. First, I share your concern, leach, about how anyone an come into your country and our country relatively unchecked.

    Second, as I listened to witness interviews, there was a common theme amongst them of "There was nothing we could do". I am very pro 2nd Amendment and this may have had a different outcome in the states, particularly in Texas. GB has gone to the extreme, IMO, with gun control and this is one of the byproducts. Citizens simply have no way of stopping something like this. Faith is placed on the police, not all of whom are armed, to stop this. Thankfully, the armed police got there and took the necessary action to stop these guys but it was a little too late for the dead man.

    Third, the cavalier attitude and brazeness of the man in the video is haunting. It takes a special type of psycho to do what he did and then be so in your face about it.
    Totally share your opinion on this Houston. I am a huge fan of how states such as Texas run things, and I wish we adopted the same laws on gun control etc... sadly, Britian is obsessed with human rights, and letting people like this get away with anything. I have no doubt that these morons will be going to a special institute of some kind and away from the normal prisons where they'd literally get eliminated in.




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    Re: British soldiers hacked to death in London by muslim extremists

    I am on a flight and have been reading articles on BBC, Sky, etc about this and they're mentioning that people from the EDL came out immediately after the attack.

    Who are the EDL?
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    Re: British soldiers hacked to death in London by muslim extremists

    How many bystanders were shot by the perpetrators? None.

    If citizens had guns, it's likely the perpetrators would have too, then we aren't talking about a single person dead.

    I appreciate America has a particular stance on firearms. That's for you guys. That's not here, and the idea this would have ended better with firearms in peoples' hands just doesn't wash.

    Personally I don't want to live in a country where I feel I need to own a firearm to be safe because everyone else owns one. Going about my daily life I feel safe, I don't live in fear of gun crime.

    So yeah. What is right for you guys isn't right for the rest of us.




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    Re: British soldiers hacked to death in London by muslim extremists

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    I am on a flight and have been reading articles on BBC, Sky, etc about this and they're mentioning that people from the EDL came out immediately after the attack.

    Who are the EDL?
    Xenophobic bigots, and by the British legal definition of the term, terrorists.




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    Re: British soldiers hacked to death in London by muslim extremists

    Quote Originally Posted by Lee Van Cleef View Post
    Xenophobic bigots, and by the British legal definition of the term, terrorists.
    I was looking for a more textbook definition
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    Re: British soldiers hacked to death in London by muslim extremists

    Quote Originally Posted by Lee Van Cleef View Post
    How many bystanders were shot by the perpetrators? None.

    If citizens had guns, it's likely the perpetrators would have too, then we aren't talking about a single person dead.

    I appreciate America has a particular stance on firearms. That's for you guys. That's not here, and the idea this would have ended better with firearms in peoples' hands just doesn't wash.

    Personally I don't want to live in a country where I feel I need to own a firearm to be safe because everyone else owns one. Going about my daily life I feel safe, I don't live in fear of gun crime.

    So yeah. What is right for you guys isn't right for the rest of us.
    So how would you or anyone else have defended themselves if this guy decided to continue going after others with those knives?
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    Re: British soldiers hacked to death in London by muslim extremists

    Quote Originally Posted by NCRAVEN View Post
    So how would you or anyone else have defended themselves if this guy decided to continue going after others with those knives?
    Paid the jizya, methinks.




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    Re: British soldiers hacked to death in London by muslim extremists

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    I was looking for a more textbook definition
    English defense league. Right wing protest group that are extremely anti Islam in the UK, they are pretty much just a bunch of skinhead thugs who see things like cavemen.




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    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    Very sad and very disturbing.

    This has my blood boiling on a number of fronts. First, I share your concern, leach, about how anyone an come into your country and our country relatively unchecked.

    Second, as I listened to witness interviews, there was a common theme amongst them of "There was nothing we could do". I am very pro 2nd Amendment and this may have had a different outcome in the states, particularly in Texas. GB has gone to the extreme, IMO, with gun control and this is one of the byproducts. Citizens simply have no way of stopping something like this. Faith is placed on the police, not all of whom are armed, to stop this. Thankfully, the armed police got there and took the necessary action to stop these guys but it was a little too late for the dead man.

    Third, the cavalier attitude and brazeness of the man in the video is haunting. It takes a special type of psycho to do what he did and then be so in your face about it.
    I dunno, correct me if I'm wrong but it sounds like there was only one victim and then the police shot them down, right? If I read it correctly, then I don't see how it would have gone any differently (or at any rate, any *better*) in America. How would the outcome have been different in Texas?

    1. Killer knocks off first victim... How would that have been prevented? The killer has all sorts of advantage when the attack begins, including element of surprise and control of a situation that will soon be a panic state for everyone else.

    2. Killer doesn't record any more kills and is stopped by law enforcement. That's about as good as you can get after part 1 occurs.

    Or am I missing something?




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    Re: British soldiers hacked to death in London by muslim extremists

    Quote Originally Posted by callahan09 View Post
    I dunno, correct me if I'm wrong but it sounds like there was only one victim and then the police shot them down, right? If I read it correctly, then I don't see how it would have gone any differently (or at any rate, any *better*) in America. How would the outcome have been different in Texas?

    1. Killer knocks off first victim... How would that have been prevented? The killer has all sorts of advantage when the attack begins, including element of surprise and control of a situation that will soon be a panic state for everyone else.

    2. Killer doesn't record any more kills and is stopped by law enforcement. That's about as good as you can get after part 1 occurs.

    Or am I missing something?
    You missed the "there was nothing we could do" attitude from the bystanders. If you had a gun and saw that happen what would you do?

    I would say as good as you could get would be a) Victim 1 being armed and able to defend himself or b) bystander is armed steps up and double taps a couple into the terrorist skull before he could start and or finish HACKING off the soldiers head..
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    Quote Originally Posted by callahan09 View Post
    I dunno, correct me if I'm wrong but it sounds like there was only one victim and then the police shot them down, right? If I read it correctly, then I don't see how it would have gone any differently (or at any rate, any *better*) in America. How would the outcome have been different in Texas?
    By my count, I see about 15-20 people standing around. The street looks very busy and the articles I've read say this street was busy and their were numerous witnesses. In Texas, 1 in 10 per capita are carrying a firearm at any given time. So going my probability, 2 people could have been in the crowd armed and capable of helping.

    Quote Originally Posted by callahan09 View Post
    1. Killer knocks off first victim... How would that have been prevented? The killer has all sorts of advantage when the attack begins, including element of surprise and control of a situation that will soon be a panic state for everyone else.
    The victim himself could have been armed and not necessarily everyone else. The attackers first struck him with a car, pinning him against a tree. There's opportunity right there to take out a weapon and defend himself. Then they drug him into the street before stabbing him. Again, another opportunity for someone to pull out a weapon and end things right there.

    Quote Originally Posted by callahan09 View Post
    2. Killer doesn't record any more kills and is stopped by law enforcement. That's about as good as you can get after part 1 occurs.

    Or am I missing something?
    You're missing that it took 20 minutes for armed police to arrive to the scene. Maybe the stabbings could have been stopped in time to where the victim lived. Instead, the attackers had free reign to damn near behead the victim.
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