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05-22-2013, 09:44 PM #1SuggsKill Guest
Brian Urlacher retires after 13 seasons
http://espn.go.com/chicago/nfl/story...bears-retiring
He's one of the only four players who have recorded 40 sacks and 20 interceptions.
He is one of the best linebackers I've ever watched, and it was a pleasure. I don't think he was ever as intense as Lewis was but the guy is one of the greatest defensive players in Bears history.
How does everyone feel about it? I think he's a Hall of Famer.
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Although Walsh's system of offense can compensate for lack of talent; however, defense is a different story. According to Walsh, talent on defense was essential and could not be compensated for. What did Walsh do in 1981? He acquired physical and talented players on defense.
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05-22-2013, 11:48 PM #3Steve Flacco, Apparently
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I'm actually a little annoyed by his timing. Now either he waits a 6th year to go into the Hall because the committee doesn't want to send two guys at the same position from the same era in together, or he goes in with the man we all know was the GOAT and he has to share the spotlight.
My motto was always to keep swinging. Whether I was in a slump or feeling badly or having trouble off the field, the only thing to do was keep swinging. -Hank Aaron
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05-23-2013, 10:11 AM #4Legendary RSR Poster
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Re: Brian Urlacher retires after 13 seasons
Personally, I don't think he's a lock for first ballot and the fact Ray is going be there only pushes his chances that much further down.
Urlacher was on NFLN this morning and he was quick to say that, in his opinion, Ray is the GOAT and he'd gladly play second fiddle to him if they both get inducted at the same time.
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Re: Brian Urlacher retires after 13 seasons
Ive always thought Urlacher was one of the better of all time. Frankly I think he brought abilities to the position that werent really seen before being a converted SS. He'll rightfully be a HoF'er.
I feel some dislike him solely because hes the other guy thats in the conversation as best MLB of the era. I dont think hes Ray by any means, but ive always thought he was rightfully in that conversation. to me he has been the 2nd best MLB of their era. Even he wouldnt say hes better.
“If I am lucky enough to go in [to Canton] with Ray, I will say this: I think I am pretty good, but Ray is the best of all time,” Urlacher said on NFL Total Access.
Urlacher not only ranks Lewis above himself, but above many of the other top middle linebackers in NFL history, including Chuck Bednarik, Dick Butkus, Mike Singletary, Sam Huff, Jack Lambert, Willie Lanier and Ray Nitschke.
“His numbers, to the guys that played with him, he did it the right way,” Urlacher said. “He played hard. He is the best middle linebacker of all time. If I get a chance to go into the Hall of Fame with him, that would be awesome. I am up there I think, but not quite. The longevity he had was crazy, 17 years.”-JAB
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05-23-2013, 11:20 AM #6
Re: Brian Urlacher retires after 13 seasons
I always thought of Urlacher as a player that got more attention than ability. Of course he has the #s that support him being a really good player, but my lasting image of him has always being run over by Jerome Bettis at the goal line in that game against the Steelers some years back. That happened in Urlacher's prime too and I just feel that he had been helped by the media all those years to fill their "Monsters of the Midway" quota in Chicago.
I personally don't think the media cared who manned that position as long as he was above average and looked like a football player. To me he just looked like a "marketable" face in a major market city devoid of present day football heroes. I'm not trying to go against the grain at all, I just didn't see the big whoop. I'm prepared to be disagreed with.
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05-23-2013, 11:26 AM #7Veteran Poster
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05-23-2013, 11:22 AM #8
Re: Brian Urlacher retires after 13 seasons
When i read that from Urlacher on what he said about Lewis being the best at that position actually made me like this guy more. From what I hear he does a ton in the community. i don't know if the Bears fans would have been happy to hear him say Lewis was the best of all time considering the whole Dick Butkus debate...
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Re: Brian Urlacher retires after 13 seasons
Brian Urlacher has had his moments when it is easy to dislike him. His reputation away from the field was not one of a menace to society, really just a prick when he wanted to be. However, from what I gather, he did a lot for the community and it is clear that he did a lot for the organization. There are a lot of athletes like that though. Like people in general really, they have their prick moments, but also do their share of good.
It took years for that defense to fall off. So, I think the fact that Ray's defense took even longer to fall off overshadows him. Personally, I have always thought that he was 'somewhat' overhyped, but it will be difficult to deny him a place in Canton with his numbers."Please take with you this final sword, The Excellector. I am praying that your journey will be guided by the light", Leon Shore
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Re: Brian Urlacher retires after 13 seasons
Anyone read Ernie Accorsi's comments? One thing about Ernie is that he was a great judge of talent for decades. Accorsi isn't even sure if Urlacher is a Hall of Fame player and he is someone who would know a lot more than most.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...hall-of-famer/
“I think he’s a borderline Hall of Famer,” Accorsi said. “I don’t know that he’s a definite Hall of Famer. I think there is a host of them, like Willie Lanier, that were dominant players. He was good, but I wouldn’t put him in that level.”
Asked if he’d put the “guaranteed Hall of Famer” label on Urlacher, Accorsi said he wouldn’t. Instead, Accorsi said, Urlacher was a somewhat limited player who doesn’t deserve to be mentioned among the all-time greats.
“I definitely wouldn’t,” Accorsi said. “That’s my opinion. I don’t think he’s a guarantee. I mean, he may get in because he got a lot of publicity and he was a hard player. But his span that he covered was really restricted. Now a lot of those middle linebackers were in those days. They didn’t have three or four wide receivers so they stayed on the field for three downs. They might be off today. But, no, I certainly don’t have him in [Dick] Butkus or Ray Lewis [category]. And I don’t think he should be in there, really with [Joe] Schmidt and [Ray] Nitschke and those guys, either.”
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