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    Quote Originally Posted by JAB1985 View Post
    I like how our WRs compliment each other, as well as having youth/depth within those. Torrey, Doss, Jacoby, Thompson, Reed, Streeter. doubt we go 7 so i have Williams out and Mellette on PS. Im completely confident in that group and i think all of them will see the field in various packages.
    One of the unnoticed battles will be Streeters vs Mellette IMO. I think Smith, Doss, Jacoby, Thompson and Reed (as long as he stays healthy) will be locks and the battle will be over the sixth spot.

    Does Streeter have any ST upside?
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    Quote Originally Posted by runrayrun27 View Post
    One of the unnoticed battles will be Streeters vs Mellette IMO. I think Smith, Doss, Jacoby, Thompson and Reed (as long as he stays healthy) will be locks and the battle will be over the sixth spot.

    Does Streeter have any ST upside?
    Probably less than Mellette, but im not sure of Mellettes history in that area. Streeter hasnt offered much in that area. He does offer a redzone threat however. My thinking is with Jones and a healthy Reed (and lesser extent Doss) they may feel safe with the ST contributors and want to add another weapon to the offense.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JAB1985 View Post
    Probably less than Mellette, but im not sure of Mellettes history in that area. Streeter hasnt offered much in that area. He does offer a redzone threat however. My thinking is with Jones and a healthy Reed (and lesser extent Doss) they may feel safe with the ST contributors and want to add another weapon to the offense.
    That's true and Streeters size and speed are a huge upside. I just haven't heard anything but "still raw". It was only OTA's though so nothing to look too much into
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    Quote Originally Posted by runrayrun27 View Post
    I remember how pumped people were with [David Reed]. I would love to see him emerge as a slot. I don't think we're going to get one solid guy to play the slot so we're going to need an assortment of guys to make big plays
    Coming out I thought he had a great chance to be a bigger, better Derrick Mason. All indications coming out of camp suggest he looks incredibly explosive as an open field runner after the catch. If he stays healthy I think he could make a pretty big impact for us.

    He(and Deonte) are going to have to look significantly better than Doss though in order for them to surpass him on the depth chart. We are almost sure to give Doss the most opportunity, and I'm sure Jacoby will get the 3rd most snaps of any WR. So whoever doesn't win the competition between Doss, Thompson, Reed, Streeter and Melette is going to be hard pressed to find snaps.




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    Quote Originally Posted by runrayrun27 View Post
    One of the unnoticed battles will be Streeters vs Mellette IMO. I think Smith, Doss, Jacoby, Thompson and Reed (as long as he stays healthy) will be locks and the battle will be over the sixth spot.

    Does Streeter have any ST upside?
    I agree with this position. Obviously Smith and Jacoby are 100% locks, but Thompson, Doss, and Reed are all versatile and offer ST contributions, Thompson had his moments as a KR last year, Doss showed well on a few punt returns, and Reed is the team's best gunner and can also return kicks and punts. That makes those guys all locks as well at this point.

    I don't see either Streeter or Mellette offering ST value and whichever of the two of them wins the 6th WR spot is likely to be a game-day inactive most weeks. It's kind of a tough call between those two right now because quite honestly, judging from their college tape, neither one is anywhere close to ready to contribute. Mellette is probably ahead technically a little bit and I think he has a little more inherent route-running ability, but not much.

    Streeter just looked so stiff and sluggish getting in and out of his breaks last preseason that I didn't see a ton of upside as an NFL WR for him. Of course, now he's had a whole year to really polish and sharpen things up, and his roster status is really going to depend on how much he was able to do with the time he had. If he made strides, he might convince the team to hang onto him. Otherwise, I would put it 55/45 or so towards Mellette.




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    Quote Originally Posted by bmorecareful View Post
    I agree with this position. Obviously Smith and Jacoby are 100% locks, but Thompson, Doss, and Reed are all versatile and offer ST contributions, Thompson had his moments as a KR last year, Doss showed well on a few punt returns, and Reed is the team's best gunner and can also return kicks and punts. That makes those guys all locks as well at this point.

    I don't see either Streeter or Mellette offering ST value and whichever of the two of them wins the 6th WR spot is likely to be a game-day inactive most weeks. It's kind of a tough call between those two right now because quite honestly, judging from their college tape, neither one is anywhere close to ready to contribute. Mellette is probably ahead technically a little bit and I think he has a little more inherent route-running ability, but not much.

    Streeter just looked so stiff and sluggish getting in and out of his breaks last preseason that I didn't see a ton of upside as an NFL WR for him. Of course, now he's had a whole year to really polish and sharpen things up, and his roster status is really going to depend on how much he was able to do with the time he had. If he made strides, he might convince the team to hang onto him. Otherwise, I would put it 55/45 or so towards Mellette.
    Well, truth is we really don't know what Mellette offers as a STs player. I will say - purely based on the tape I have seen - he is a lot more fluid than Streeter is.

    When I watch Streeter, I see a deep-route receiver. I don't see him physically being able to shake defenders with savvy route running, but I do think he could provide some value as a corner/jump-ball red zone threat and maybe a few 9-routes here and there.

    Mellette is a better route runner and has good hands. He just needs to get acclimated to the NFL level.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bmorecareful View Post
    I agree with this position. Obviously Smith and Jacoby are 100% locks, but Thompson, Doss, and Reed are all versatile and offer ST contributions, Thompson had his moments as a KR last year, Doss showed well on a few punt returns, and Reed is the team's best gunner and can also return kicks and punts. That makes those guys all locks as well at this point.

    I don't see either Streeter or Mellette offering ST value and whichever of the two of them wins the 6th WR spot is likely to be a game-day inactive most weeks. It's kind of a tough call between those two right now because quite honestly, judging from their college tape, neither one is anywhere close to ready to contribute. Mellette is probably ahead technically a little bit and I think he has a little more inherent route-running ability, but not much.

    Streeter just looked so stiff and sluggish getting in and out of his breaks last preseason that I didn't see a ton of upside as an NFL WR for him. Of course, now he's had a whole year to really polish and sharpen things up, and his roster status is really going to depend on how much he was able to do with the time he had. If he made strides, he might convince the team to hang onto him. Otherwise, I would put it 55/45 or so towards Mellette.
    Im not willing to put Mellette ahead at this point for two reasons. Streeter has a year on him in the NFL and with the playbook. Mellette may be further along as a WR in general by perspective rookie years, but Streeter isnt the same as last year. hes been coached and worked for an entire season. Most every story I saw said hes leaps and bounds ahead of last year. Not saying hes a lock or Mellette couldnt beat him out, but id say hes more likely at this point at the very least.

    I think what the team values as far STs could really be the deciding factor. in which case maybe Williams is that final spot. Ultimately i think we all mostly agree that the first 5 spots are pretty much locks and the 6th is the true camp battle.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JAB1985 View Post
    Im not willing to put Mellette ahead at this point for two reasons. Streeter has a year on him in the NFL and with the playbook. Mellette may be further along as a WR in general by perspective rookie years, but Streeter isnt the same as last year. hes been coached and worked for an entire season. Most every story I saw said hes leaps and bounds ahead of last year. Not saying hes a lock or Mellette couldnt beat him out, but id say hes more likely at this point at the very least.

    I think what the team values as far STs could really be the deciding factor. in which case maybe Williams is that final spot. Ultimately i think we all mostly agree that the first 5 spots are pretty much locks and the 6th is the true camp battle.
    We also read a lot of the same things about Justin Harper and Marcus Smith.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    We also read a lot of the same things about Justin Harper and Marcus Smith.
    without a doubt and they were given opportunities to succeed as well, arguably without having nearly as much upside. Time will tell.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JAB1985 View Post
    without a doubt and they were given opportunities to succeed as well, arguably without having nearly as much upside. Time will tell.
    I think the difference was that Marcus Smith could at least play STs well. That's the only reason he hung around on the squad as long as he did.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    I think the difference was that Marcus Smith could at least play STs well. That's the only reason he hung around on the squad as long as he did.
    Kind of like why we still have Laquan Williams. Hes flashed a little, but theres no question hes been here for his ST.
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    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    I think the difference was that Marcus Smith could at least play STs well. That's the only reason he hung around on the squad as long as he did.
    Yeah Marcus was a fantastic gunner, just couldn't play receiver. I wouldn't say it's a lock we even carry a 6th receiver unless Melette or Streeter shows they can contribute in some way on teams. Otherwise we are more likely to carry a 5th safety, 4th RB, 6th CB, or whatever else.

    EDIT: Oh yeah, forgot about Laquan, he definitely has the leg up of the 3 right now.




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    Harper's issue was that he couldn't catch. Every time he had a chance to make his presence known in the preseason, he dropped the ball.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpiderWebb View Post
    Coming out I thought he had a great chance to be a bigger, better Derrick Mason. All indications coming out of camp suggest he looks incredibly explosive as an open field runner after the catch.
    His explosiveness isn't surprising. Reed was a heck of a return man prior to his ACL tear.

    I think the coaching staff is going to have to look at the last WR spot as a "which of these guys offers us something we don't have?". If Streeter is just a speedy 9-route, jump ball kind of guy, don't the Ravens already have that covered with players that also offer something else?




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    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    I think the difference was that Marcus Smith could at least play STs well. That's the only reason he hung around on the squad as long as he did.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheSpiderWebb View Post
    Yeah Marcus was a fantastic gunner, just couldn't play receiver.
    Marcus Smith was the punt gunner, one of our best STs players. He showed real promise as a WR. His NFL stat line shows zero receptions: but he drew a PI penalty in the endzone once, and made a nifty catch on a carom after getting knocked down by a defender, that got called back for a holding penalty. He was also wide open down the field in the first AFCC in Pittsburgh, on the play where Joe threw the clinching pick-6 to Polamalu. If Joe had pump-faked it to Mason and then lofted it to Smith, he'd have walked into the endzone. We'd have had a 5-pt lead with ~3 mins to play.

    What I'm trying to say is, Smith was much more productive than his "zero receptions" indicates. I thought he had a real chance to be a player – was excited about him coming into 2009. Then he had the preseason knee injury. That wiped out his one real chance to win a receiving job. When he came back from the knee, we had acquired Boldin, and Smith's window was closed.




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