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    I was wrong it was fast and furious, not the Benghazi incident, that he gave the same response about:


    "There have been problems, you know. I heard on the news about this story that - - fast and furious, where allegedly guns were being run into Mexico and ATF knew about it but didn't apprehend those who had sent it."


    http://cnsnews.com/news/article/wh-c...d-furious-news
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    Re: Benghazi is Starting to Blow Up

    Real quick to pass the buck.
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    It's the fourth time he's pulled the "I learned it on the news" excuse. Another gem from John Stewart ....

    http://clashdaily.com/2013/05/stewar...me-time-as-us/

    And I don't buy the whole excuse about troops would not have made it in time.

    Two people died right away in the initial attack. That's when the help calls first went out. It was a full seven hours until the last two people died.

    So State knew people were still alive when they heard of the attack yet someone told the military to stand down. They had no idea if the attack was over or not since the embassy was a blaze. Seems reasonable to me you get troops started that way to save the lives of those still remaining.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    It's the fourth time he's pulled the "I learned it on the news" excuse. Another gem from John Stewart ....

    http://clashdaily.com/2013/05/stewar...me-time-as-us/

    And I don't buy the whole excuse about troops would not have made it in time.

    Two people died right away in the initial attack. That's when the help calls first went out. It was a full seven hours until the last two people died.

    So State knew people were still alive when they heard of the attack yet someone told the military to stand down. They had no idea if the attack was over or not since the embassy was a blaze. Seems reasonable to me you get troops started that way to save the lives of those still remaining.
    Like I said, I had a good friend (who just returned home from deployment for over a year) who was on a destroyer in a carrier strike group. In fact, his destroyer is one of the most technically armed and advanced destroyers in the fleet. They were in the med.

    Having been in the Navy, I can tell you first hand that we can dispatch jets in a short period of time. Would it have done anything? Who knows, but a couple of fighters flying overhead dropping some hardware may have scared them off and saved some lives in the process.

    They'll launch a shit load of Tomahawks into Libya from the Med when they want to take out Qadaffi...

    Just saying...something doesnt add up.

    Oh, and I can also state with 100% confidence that the President does not find shit out from the news.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    It's the fourth time he's pulled the "I learned it on the news" excuse. Another gem from John Stewart ....

    http://clashdaily.com/2013/05/stewar...me-time-as-us/

    And I don't buy the whole excuse about troops would not have made it in time.

    Two people died right away in the initial attack. That's when the help calls first went out. It was a full seven hours until the last two people died.

    So State knew people were still alive when they heard of the attack yet someone told the military to stand down. They had no idea if the attack was over or not since the embassy was a blaze. Seems reasonable to me you get troops started that way to save the lives of those still remaining.

    “I wouldn’t be surprised if President Obama learned Osama bin Laden had been killed when he saw himself announce it on television."

    Ahahahaha!

    Now I'm in no position to make a judgment on this, but 7 hours seems like an awfully long time.

    Dade, what do you think about that time frame?
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    Re: Benghazi is Starting to Blow Up

    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    It's the fourth time he's pulled the "I learned it on the news" excuse. Another gem from John Stewart ....

    http://clashdaily.com/2013/05/stewar...me-time-as-us/

    And I don't buy the whole excuse about troops would not have made it in time.

    Two people died right away in the initial attack. That's when the help calls first went out. It was a full seven hours until the last two people died.

    So State knew people were still alive when they heard of the attack yet someone told the military to stand down. They had no idea if the attack was over or not since the embassy was a blaze. Seems reasonable to me you get troops started that way to save the lives of those still remaining.
    Stewart hit the nail on the head.




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    Re: Benghazi is Starting to Blow Up

    Quote Originally Posted by Sirdowski View Post
    Dade, what do you think about that time frame?
    They would have either gotten there just in time to help or just after the attack. In my opinion it would have been the latter.

    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    Like I said, I had a good friend (who just returned home from deployment for over a year) who was on a destroyer in a carrier strike group. In fact, his destroyer is one of the most technically armed and advanced destroyers in the fleet. They were in the med.

    Having been in the Navy, I can tell you first hand that we can dispatch jets in a short period of time. Would it have done anything? Who knows, but a couple of fighters flying overhead dropping some hardware may have scared them off and saved some lives in the process.

    They'll launch a shit load of Tomahawks into Libya from the Med when they want to take out Qadaffi...

    Just saying...something doesnt add up.

    Oh, and I can also state with 100% confidence that the President does not find shit out from the news.

    I've seen fighters launched within 5 minutes of notification. But they were sitting alert. At the time, we didn't have anything on alert.

    The biggest problem with AFRICOM is that we have no assigned forces. So anytime we want to do something be it short notice or not, we have to request support from the DOD (RFF). Even the smallest of operations have to be precoordinated. If we had assigned forces we could respond more quickly. Just task an unit. Of have units tasked to stand alert for certain areas of Africa. Or preposition forces. Nope we can't do anything like that.

    Ditto about the President. He ain't fooling anybody with that.




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    Re: Benghazi is Starting to Blow Up

    And so the plot thickens...

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_3289428.html

    This just gets messier.




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    Re: Benghazi is Starting to Blow Up

    http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/28/politi...html?hpt=po_c2

    House oversight committee to subpoena State Dept.
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    Re: Benghazi is Starting to Blow Up

    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/28/politi...html?hpt=po_c2

    House oversight committee to subpoena State Dept.
    This is still being reported as a politically motivated investigation.

    The talking points have become a political flashpoint in a long-running battle between the administration and Republicans, who accuse it of not bolstering security before the attack, of botching the response to it and of misleading the public for political gain less than two months before the November election.
    Nothing serious will come of this. Hell, the administration is wire-tapping and reading the press' own e-mail and still they do nothing but continue to be subservient to and a mouthpiece of the administration.

    They don't want to risk being taken off the guest list of that next cocktail party, you know.




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