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05-08-2013, 11:26 AM #1
Flacco #100 on PFF's Top 101 of 2012 (and why it's ridiculous)
I checked... this *does not* try to discount the post-season... post-season play is considered here. Given that, Flacco at #100 is an absolute joke.
Just for starters I'll analyze Flacco against Kaepernick (#81, almost 20 spots higher).
Kaepernick started playing in Game 9. Comparing their work since Game 9 and including the play-offs:
Flacco had a 99.5 QB Rating. Kaepernick had a 99.3.
Flacco had 7 games with over a 100 QB Rating. Kaepernick had 5.
Flacco threw 23 TDs and 4 INTs. Kaepernick threw 14 TDs and 5 INTs.
Flacco had 25 total TDs. Kaepernick had 20 total TDs.
Flacco had 7 fumbles. Kaepernick had 9 fumbles.
Flacco threw for 2967 yards. Kaepernick threw for 2523 yards.
Flacco played in 6 road games during that stretch. Kaepernick played in 5 road games.
Flacco played against a 0.607 strength of schedule. Kaepernick played against a 0.574 SOS.
Flacco played 8 games against teams with winning records. Kaepernick, 6 games.
Flacco played 10 games against teams with .500 or better records. Kaepernick, 6 games.
Flacco played 7 games against playoff teams. Kaepernick played 5 games.
Flacco won the Super Bowl. Kaepernick lost the Super Bowl.
The only area where Kaepernick outplayed Flacco during that time was in terms of rushing yards, but including those yards he and Flacco come out pretty close to even in terms of total yards produced. People say Flacco benefited from a bad play against Denver, well that was *one play*. Kaepernick's rushing stats benefited from an entire game worth of just horrible, abysmal, totally inexcusable play by the Green Bay defense. So call it a wash there.
Across the whole season, Flacco had 33 TDs and 10 INTs (a 3.3:1 ratio), while Kaepernick had 14 TD and 5 INTs (a 2.8:1 ratio).
Including rushing TDs and fumbles, Flacco had 36 TDs and 20 INTS+Fumbles (a 1.8:1 ratio), while Kaepernick had 22 TDs and 15 INTs+Fumbles (a 1.47:1 ratio).
They also put Eli Manning ahead of Flacco, despite Flacco having the better regular season in terms of passer rating, and team record, and got his team to the play-offs with a win head-to-head against Eli Manning in what was essentially a must-win for both teams. I don't even have to look at the post-season to see why Flacco shouldn't be rated lower than Eli, but when you put in Flacco's post-season, you can see that it's just absolutely absurd.
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05-08-2013, 11:36 AM #2Pro Bowl Poster
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Re: Flacco #100 on PFF's Top 101 of 2012 (and why it's ridiculous)
Callahan you have always been awesome with the stats BUT, when it comes to Flacco it doesn't matter. Why else will people like Skip Bayliss and Jamie Dukes tout wins as a means to measure QBs but disregard that fact when talking about Flacco.
It's always luck or some other type of hogwash as the reason we won. I don't even try to fight anymore. I just accept that Flacco will never be mainstream.
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05-08-2013, 11:46 AM #3
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Re: Flacco #100 on PFF's Top 101 of 2012 (and why it's ridiculous)
I am actually in favor of Joe never being mainstream.
Keeps a chip on his shoulder. Gives him an edge, so to speak.Disclaimer: The content posted is of my own opinion.
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05-08-2013, 11:52 AM #5Pro Bowl Poster
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Re: Flacco #100 on PFF's Top 101 of 2012 (and why it's ridiculous)
Go ahead, keep slighting Joe, we may never lose another PO game.
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05-08-2013, 11:57 AM #6Legendary RSR Poster
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Re: Flacco #100 on PFF's Top 101 of 2012 (and why it's ridiculous)
I like PFF's website, but some of their writers are incredibly biased against Flacco. They'll spin anything they can to make Flacco look bad.
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05-08-2013, 12:29 PM #7Legendary RSR Poster
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Yet another reason I don't take anything PFF says seriously.
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Re: Flacco #100 on PFF's Top 101 of 2012 (and why it's ridiculous)
I dont like PFF. This only supports that.
-JAB
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05-08-2013, 01:18 PM #10
Re: Flacco #100 on PFF's Top 101 of 2012 (and why it's ridiculous)
Even more aggravating - Hensley rated AFC North QBs yesterday and ranked Ben first. After the last two years, I don't think you make that determination anymore. He cost them the playoffs last year with his performance and he can't hold up for a full schedule of games. He's old, breaking down and I think he's missing Arians. As a matter of fact, I've started to think that his and the Steelers success was largely attributable to Arians (Colts too, they'll miss him a lot) and the decline they'll suffer will be known as the Curse of the Bruce.
Last edited by saintmatthew; 05-08-2013 at 01:26 PM. Reason: Wasn't suppsoed to be a quote
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05-08-2013, 01:42 PM #11Regular 1st Stringer
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Re: Flacco #100 on PFF's Top 101 of 2012 (and why it's ridiculous)
At least putting Ben as the top QB in the North is defensible, to a degree.
Listing Flacco as the 100th best player in the NFL is something The Onion might do. It's beyond ridiculous, and if that site/publication/whatever-it-is is THAT far off-base, there's no point in even defending our guy. Whatever their system is, it's not very good.
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Re: Flacco #100 on PFF's Top 101 of 2012 (and why it's ridiculous)
Same anti-PFF agenda.
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