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    Quote Originally Posted by riprulz8 View Post
    Don't worry - there won't be any debate. No matter what LeBron does, Jordan will ALWAYS be the GOAT.
    That's simply not true, they are just about equal in every way except championship's, but LeBron is only 28 and has a good chance at pulling away in every category except scoring.

    Per-36 Stats - Career:

    LBJ - 25.0 points, 6.6 rebounds, 6.3 assists, 1.6 steals, 0.8 blocks, 3.0 turnovers, 1.7 fouls, .490 fg%, .337 3p%, .747 ft%
    27.6 PER, .241 WS/48

    MJ - 28.3 points, 5.9 rebounds, 4.9 assists, 2.2 steals, 0.8 blocks, 2.6 turnovers, 2.4 fouls, .497 fg%, .327 3p%, .835 ft%
    27.9 PER, .250 WS/48

    Per-36 stats - Best Season (by WS/48):

    LBJ - 25.5 points, 7.6 rebounds, 6.9 assists, 1.6 steals, 0.8 blocks, 2.8 turnovers, 1.4 fouls, .565 fg%, .406 3p%, .753 ft%
    31.6 PER, .322 WS/48

    MJ - 30.6 points, 5.8 rebounds, 5.4 assists, 2.6 steals, 1.0 blocks, 2.4 turnovers, 2.7 fouls, .539 fg%, .312 3p%, .851 ft%
    31.6 PER, .321 WS/48




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    A four point difference in career average points is huge. As is a one steal difference.

    James has a LONG way to go before he's on the level of Jordan.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HoustonRaven View Post
    A four point difference in career average points is huge. As is a one steal difference.

    James has a LONG way to go before he's on the level of Jordan.
    as is the gap on rebounding and assists, showing Lebron as the more complete player
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenswintitle View Post
    as is the gap on rebounding and assists, showing Lebron as the more complete player
    No. It's apples and oranges and a VERY different league back then.

    I have no dog in this fight except having watched both during their entire careers. James is getting there, no doubt about it.

    But he's still a very long way to reach Jordon. He hasn't really surpassed Koby yet so it's still uphill for him right now.

    If he keeps this going, stays healthy and wins more rings, yes James will be considered GOAT. But those are a lot of "ifs" in a league where career can go away rather quickly.
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    I am actually a big Lebron fan.

    But sorry, he will never be on Jordan's level IMHO.

    He would have had a shot if he didn't melt down in the 2011 finals. No matter what he does from here on out, that performance will forever be a black mark...I can't see Jordan or any of the of the top 15 players in NBA history just completely out of it mentally like that.

    Now all that being said, I think Lebron is right now one of the top 10 players in NBA history and has a hell of a shot to be in the top 5 with another title or 2.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Raveninwoodlawn View Post
    I am actually a big Lebron fan.

    But sorry, he will never be on Jordan's level IMHO.

    He would have had a shot if he didn't melt down in the 2011 finals. No matter what he does from here on out, that performance will forever be a black mark...I can't see Jordan or any of the of the top 15 players in NBA history just completely out of it mentally like that.

    Now all that being said, I think Lebron is right now one of the top 10 players in NBA history and has a hell of a shot to be in the top 5 with another title or 2.


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    I agree, too often i think people try to look at all these advanced stats and numbers and ignore the eye ball test. Lebron is maybe the greatest physical specimen we've ever seen and in recent years has filled holes in his game to become the leagues best player but there is nothing he can do on a basketball court better then Jordan then maybe pass. It's no knock on Lebron, i think he's terrific and i love the way he plays as well as how he handles himself(besides the decision lol)




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    Bulls / Heat game two tonight.
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    I don't understand why Rose won't at least try to give it a go. He's medically cleared but says he's not mentally ready. Really? You can't even try it? BS
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenswintitle View Post
    I don't understand why Rose won't at least try to give it a go. He's medically cleared but says he's not mentally ready. Really? You can't even try it? BS
    Maybe the Bulls got spanked yesterday on purpose to guilt him into suiting up game 3 lol

    It really is a shame though because i think the Bulls could give the Heat a real run for their money with Rose, i believe when Rose got hurt he had come back from an injury(maybe he thinks prematurely) and maybe that is coming into play with his reluctance to now.




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    It's been more than a year since Rose tore that ACL. I would have thought by now with all the advance medical technology he has at his disposal he would have returned. I understand players respond differently to rehab but I'm still amaze he's not ready to go. Something doesn't look right. We've seen numerous players returning from ACL injuries ahead of schedule.




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    Especially since he has been medically cleared to play for a while now. He just says he is 'mentally' not ready.

    I remember a story about Pat Riley going into a locker room and seeing one of his starters in a suit. He looked at the guy and said "if you had to, could you give me one minute tonight". The guy bit and said sure, I could probably go for one minute. Riley said "then why the hell aren't you dressed out?"

    Rose should at least try to give a minute and see how it goes from there. Pitiful
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    Iman Shumpert had an absolutely sick dunk against the Pacers last night. It was dunk contest worthy it was that good.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/0...n_3234431.html

    Wanna take a guess when he tore his ACL? If you guessed the exact same day as Rose, you'd be 100% correct.

    Rose is milking this thing for all this worth at the expnse of his team.
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    Bulls Heat has been a good game, 2 point difference mid through the 4th

    This weekend will have some interesting action
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ravenswintitle View Post
    HAHA!

    What are the rumors with regards to him not wanting to play?
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