NBA playoffs

**Ravenswintitle** · 06-01-2013, 06:31 PM

Originally Posted by JAB1985

I already posted his efficiency rating and an article abiut the last 5 minutes. Hes combines for more points/assists, rebounds, steals and blocks than any other player. Thats not good enough for some. In fact i get the feeling many would hold him higher if he he dramatically fell off in the 4th like they claim but made the final shot. Not sure why that ways so heavy for some. An unselfish player that does right by the tram... What a horrible thing.

Some just want to see him fail, not unlike Tiger Woods in a sense. Everyone watches because they recognize a very special talent OR because they really want him to fail. Either way they watch

One hour and counting

**JMUpurkfool** · 06-01-2013, 06:41 PM

I had a guy actually try to tell me that Kobe was better than LeBron right now.

I told him if LeBron and Kobe switched spots than the Lakers would be in the finals right now and the Heat would be out of the playoffs.

He thinks I don't actually believe that.

**Ravenswintitle** · 06-01-2013, 08:29 PM

Bird man suspended for the game...BS. At least they're extending the series for more commercials and $$$$$$$

**conviction** · 06-01-2013, 10:59 PM

Originally Posted by Raveninwoodlawn

He has a higher shooting percentage in his career in the final 5 minutes than Kobe and many others.

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It depends on what you define "clutch". For me, making a left handed lay up to win game 1 is not clutch.

**conviction** · 06-01-2013, 10:59 PM

Coming back to Miami

**conviction** · 06-01-2013, 11:00 PM

Originally Posted by Ravenswintitle

Bird man suspended for the game...BS. At least they're extending the series for more commercials and $$$$$$$

No way, dude should have been straight ejected last game. This is merely consolation.

**Raveninwoodlawn** · 06-01-2013, 11:11 PM

Originally Posted by conviction

It depends on what you define "clutch". For me, making a left handed lay up to win game 1 is not clutch.

Clutch is defined for those studies by being within 5 points with 4 or 5 minutes to go.

There is literally no stat, no fact that supports any "he's not that clutch" argument.

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**alien bird** · 06-01-2013, 11:16 PM

Originally Posted by JMUpurkfool

I had a guy actually try to tell me that Kobe was better than LeBron right now.

I told him if LeBron and Kobe switched spots than the Lakers would be in the finals right now and the Heat would be out of the playoffs.

He thinks I don't actually believe that.

Well, I think you are absolutely wrong on the switching thing. It wouldn't matter which player switched with Kobe - the Lakers were such a hot mess that they weren't going anywhere. LeBron, as good as he is, couldn't have saved LA this season.

**conviction** · 06-01-2013, 11:17 PM

Originally Posted by Raveninwoodlawn

Clutch is defined for those studies by being within 5 points with 4 or 5 minutes to go.

There is literally no stat, no fact that supports any "he's not that clutch" argument.

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One possession at the end of the game. I'd take Kobe. Would I take Kobe over LeBron in a full game no

**conviction** · 06-01-2013, 11:27 PM

X factor in game 7 is Stephenson and hill; stephenson more so. Past them all they have is Augistin off the bench. But if they get decent production theyll win I think

**Raveninwoodlawn** · 06-02-2013, 12:29 AM

Originally Posted by conviction

One possession at the end of the game. I'd take Kobe. Would I take Kobe over LeBron in a full game no

Ok.

Still doesnt mean Lebron isnt clutch.

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**rpcfball** · 06-02-2013, 12:53 AM

Originally Posted by Raveninwoodlawn

Ok.

Still doesnt mean Lebron isnt clutch.

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Lebron has two things going against him causing this perception. 1. The finals losses. Which people will forget about only when he wins multiple titles and 2. He has no defining plays. He doesn't have the shot or the flu game. People need to see the series clinching buzzer beater or they'll never give him respect.

That being said, I'm starting to get annoyed with his antics. The flopping is absolutely ridiculous and what was up with his technical in the 4th there? Crybaby move