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05-08-2013, 09:48 PM #97
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Maybe, but all I'm saying is that these two are pretty similar in frame.
Now, as far as who is stronger and has more skill as a C, that remains to be seen. Competition can only be a good thing, but I'd tend to not write off Gino quickly. The underdog mentality got his brother some decent work with the Raiders, Bengals, and now possibly the Steelers. I'd be interested to see how Gino looks when he reports to OTAs and Training Camp..
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As for Ryan, I'll defer to the link at the top of this thread and what he did at rookie
camp. It of course remains to be seen if he can continue it. None of us have seen enough
of either one of them in games.
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That website is so wrong about weight/height etc. Jenson weighed in at 317 lbs at his pro day and was exactly 6'3.4, I honestly don't understand where they get their numbers from half the time. They list Terrell Suggs at 260 lbs, which was lighter than the likes of Paul Kruger who they had at 274 lbs IIRC. We all know Suggs is probably closer to 280 and is certainly bigger than Kruger.
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ILMAO - Ravens site is like padding term papers in school. In this case
to serve their own purpose. I'd believe MIkie Prestone before I believe them.
Gil Brandt the famous Cowboys guru and Ozzie Newsome of his era has Jensen
listed at 6'3.5 and 317 lbs.
http://blogs.nfl.com/2013/03/19/csu-...aft-spotlight/Last edited by AirFlacco; 05-09-2013 at 07:23 AM.
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05-09-2013, 08:55 AM #102Veteran Poster
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I don't get the size thing. 6'4" 310. Gino was 6'3" 300 when drafted. Size will not be the issue. Jensen is a sixth rounder that no one has seen any tape on. I find it comical people already predicting he will be competing for a starting spot in year two. I am sure that 1 rep more in bench has him better prepared to handle NFL defensive lineman. He was a 6th rounder for a reason.
As for Brown's size the Ravens need him to be able cover. If he is not big enough to be able to play the run as a Mike right away that is fine. There are guys that can do that. The Ravens need him to be able play in space initially. He will be fine. That is also what make McLain so enticing. They have opposite strengths.
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benching and overall strength are pretty different things. With good technique youre probably using your legs more than anything so where only one rep separates them, maybe its that functional strength people are referring to when claiming hes undersized? I have no idea, I thought he was under 300 when drafted which was driving that but i guess not.
i dont see a problem with him until he cant move some of the the AFC norths best DTs which if Geno Atkins was a sign, he certainly can. I like Jensen too. obviously theyll both be competing for C but i dont think its a given that Gino is bounced, especially for size when i dont really see that as an issue. If size meant something we wouldnt have Ray Lewis or Ed Reed who were both considered undersized. Not surprisingly we drafted Brown and Elam with similar criticisms this year.-JAB
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Benching can certainly be correlated to an offensive lineman "popping" a defensive lineman in the chest to kind of stand them up, but it definitely is only a contributing factor in functional strength as a lineman.
People using the combine bench press numbers (Jensen's 30 reps to Gino's 29 reps) as a threshold for why Jensen is "stronger" than Gino makes no sense at all.Disclaimer: The content posted is of my own opinion.
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05-09-2013, 10:17 AM #107
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it's going to be funny when neither of them starts because AQ Shipley beats them both out.
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