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I read that Arthur Brown was also very impressive and "looks the part of a Mike LB".
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Also read on BR.com that Mellette was pretty impressive.
I know many of us are doubting he'll impact right away - if at all - yet, maybe he does? We'll see when the real OTA's and Training Camp start, but maybe he'll put it together sooner than we think.Disclaimer: The content posted is of my own opinion.
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05-06-2013, 09:38 AM #27
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Doesn't matter, both of them will be competing with guys like Asa Jackson, Tommy Streeter and Bobby Rainey for spots at the end of the roster.
I'm almost positive Cody makes the 53-man though. I think they were only planning on moving Ngata inside because he was the only real option at NT. Now that we have Williams to either beat out Cody, or push him to get better, they can kick Ngata back out to DT. Now if I'm wrong and they do move Ngata to the nose for good, Cody is good as gone.
As for some other rookies, I heard a quote from Harbaugh talking about how Elam basically took over the huddle and was calling the plays and had all the terminology down from the get-go. It's possible he could end up with the green dot his rookie year, not sure if that's happened before.
I've been hearing a lot of praise for Jensen, but I don't think he beats out Gino. Most likely he backs up all 3 interior positions, then steps into LG next year when they kick KO out to one of the tackle positions. Speaking of O-line I've heard absolutely jack shit about Wagner. Probably not the best sign.
Count me among those who are surprised Melette looked decent. After how bad he looked at the Senior Bowl I didn't think he had much of a chance in the NFL, even if it was against all rookies. Furstenburg apparently looks pretty good, should have the best chance to make the roster of all our UDFAs.
Glad to see Juice being used creatively out there. Hope they find a way to get him a good bit of snaps at TE and H-back while being Leach's understudy this year.
As for the training camp battles I'm most interested in:
Wide receiver 2-6: Probably the one that will get the most attention. Early favorite has to be Doss, but he always looks good in practice, hopefully he can prove it in game situations.
Backup Tackle:Wagner vs. Gaines vs. Reid vs. Harewood(Dark horse: Jack Cornell). Most likely if one of our tackles go down we will end up going to our backup LG and Osemele moves outside, but I still am looking to forward to seeing if one of these guys steps up.
Nose tackle:Cody vs. Williams(Dark horse: Ngata) The important part here is where Ngata ends up. Either way I expect Williams to beat out Cody.
Insider linebacker: How this shakes out is anyones guess. The McClains and Brown have to be the favorites to start, but behind them, who knows. I am a huge Albert McClellan fan and think he has looked great in limited action, was really hoping he'd get a chance to prove himself this year. Bynes has also looked good when given the chance, but barring injury it's probably going to be another year on special teams for him. And don't count out Bryan Hall who is dropping weight to switch to ILB.
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I still think they'll keep Cody regardless. The reality is that he is inexpensive and he is still under his rookie contract. The Ravens are a patient organization as could be seen with Kyle Boller, Sergio Kindle, Dan Cody, Travis Taylor, Mark Clayton, and many others. They're not going to dump Cody. Even if he gets beat out by Brandon Williams, they're not going to cut him. What happens if Williams or Ngata get hurt? Cody has been a disappointment, but he knows the defense and that is something that needs to be accounted for.
My comments about DeAngelo Tyson are that he isn't necessarily competing against Cody for a roster spot or playing time. Based on his performance last year, I'd say he is a lock to make the team. He played well in the few opportunities he was given. If Art Jones continues his upward trend, it will be hard to keep him after this season. Meaning: Tyson could be a replacement for Art Jones in as little as 1 year.
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It does say a lot about Elam though. The guy is going to be a good player. I have a good feeling about him. If he can stay healthy, which durability doesn't seem to be an issue so far, he could be a good one.
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Like I said above, Gaines had knee surgery recently, so I wouldn't be surprised if he "gets hurt" and goes on IR a-la McAdoo. I see Wagner, Cornell, Jah, and Jensen as the OL back-up players. Jensen can play C or G. Cornell, Jah, and Wagner can play G or RT and Wagner can also play LT. Not ideal if they have to start, but that's solid depth IMO.
I agree with you that ILB may be the most unique competition. I think Arthur Brown is a lock to start either at the Mike or Will LB position and his range makes him an ideal candidate to be a 3-down LB. I can't see him coming off the field in sub-packages. I think the interesting competition will be between Rolando, Bynes, Jameel, and McClellan at the Mike LB position. I wouldn't be surprised if Bynes beat them out. He's got decent wheels and I like the way he wraps up when he tackles. Rolando could make some noise if he pulls his head out of his ass, but who knows if that happens. I'm still not 100% convinced that Jameel is going to be able to rebound from his injury. I know reports are saying he has come along nicely, but spinal injuries are tricky and you never really know.Disclaimer: The content posted is of my own opinion.
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Let me back up to what I said in a previous post.
Cody played well for the first 2/3's of the season in 2011. Remember, our D the first half of the year was outstanding, and Haloti was having a DPOY type start to the year.
I think Cody wore down over the second half of the year and that is why the team wanted him to lose more weight.
But I think he had a solid to good chunk of a year in 2011 until he wore down.
And then when he lost weight, he lost a lot of the pure strength he relied on as he has never been a technician. And with his height, it's hard to get leverage if you don't have a ton of brute strength or use really good technique.
While I definitely like Williams, I am nowhere close to proclaim him ready to start as he as a ton to learn and isn't just a rookie, but a rookie coming from a D2 program. What I think he will do is give us depth, and someone that can rotate with him and perhaps keep Cody from wearing down.
Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk HDAlthough Walsh's system of offense can compensate for lack of talent; however, defense is a different story. According to Walsh, talent on defense was essential and could not be compensated for. What did Walsh do in 1981? He acquired physical and talented players on defense.
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I think Furstenburg makes the team, very athletic-plus Maryland puts out TE's....stars or backups, but they usually stick.
Jensen is intriguing, very powerful and built. He is going to give Gino a run for his money, at the very least will make Gino a better player.
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(1) Furstenberg has two advantages because both Pitta and Dickson are FAs in 2014, and the Ravens did not draft a TE.
(2) Several have posted that Jensen will compete with Gino, but IMO GG is much the better player and will fit into Birk's shoes rather nicely. GG had a season to sit behind a smart veteran Center, and a whole year to bulk up his physicality. Jensen played OT, and I think will back-up OG/C ... Bc
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Sometimes Williams gets a little poop on him...
http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap100...e-poop-happens
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