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    Re: Kiper praises Ravens draft



    The first 4 picks (Elam, A. Brown, B. Wms, J. Simon), after signing Canty, Spears, Doom, and Huff (notice I didn't mention R. McClain), are going to vault the Ravens defense into the top 10 where they belong. I know there wasn't a lot of help for Flacco, but these guys will give him the ball sooner, and more often... Bc
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    Re: Kiper praises Ravens draft

    I think they hit a HR with their first 5 picks (2 in the 4th) after the 4th round it's a total crapshoot. Like to see what they have in Jensen from Pueblo. I like Furstenburg as UDFA. Dont get the Kebron pick, my guess is they saw alot of Te'o tape and said "who is that guy?" he's doing pretty good. But, probably could of got him as UDFA or late 7th comp pick because he will be out all year.




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    Re: Kiper praises Ravens draft

    Quote Originally Posted by AirFlacco View Post
    Others are saying the same thing like this one calling Ozzie's aggressive move up to
    get Brown very impressive and then he gets a lot of value here including WR
    Aaron Mellette whom a lot of people here are laughing at.

    http://nfl.si.com/2013/04/28/2013-nf...top-the-class/

    In fact, Ozzie stole Brown from Bengals which is why he used those extra late picks
    to trade up. They needed a fast ILB who could rush and cover and play special teams
    too.

    Brown could be the steal of 2d round.
    They stole Arthur Brown from everybody.
    "When questioned, the Elders explained that they were in search of magical powers. However, they're actually searching for the whereabouts of a certain ring. This ring is a legendary treasure that long ago was known to exist"




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    Re: Kiper praises Ravens draft

    Quote Originally Posted by The Excellector View Post
    They stole Arthur Brown from everybody.
    The fact that Brown went 56 overall is freaking amazing. I was expecting him to be a late first round pick.




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    Re: Kiper praises Ravens draft

    Quote Originally Posted by Paintballguy View Post
    The fact that Brown went 56 overall is freaking amazing. I was expecting him to be a late first round pick.
    After seeing some mock drafts, Brown could have been a late 1st rounder...going to the Ravens perhaps (?) Ozzie loves to select free-falling players. That's why he got Elam and then Brown. Hmmm, it seems a team like the Browns, who always pick much higher than the Ravens, could learn how it's done... Bc




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    Usatoday gave Ravens an A
    World Domination 3 Points at a Time!




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    Re: Kiper praises Ravens draft

    Matt Elam is going to be a Pro Bowler within two years. He reminds us so much of Bob Sanders and Troy Polamalu.

    Arthur Brown is going to do very well behind this defensive line. I am not predicting a Pro Bowl appearance in this case, but he will certainly play out his rookie contract successfully.

    Brandon Williams just fell into a great situation. Not only is he talented. Not only is his ceiling high, but he'll get the chance to reach it alongside the best Defensive Tackle in football.

    Vontae Leach only has one year left in his contract. The young man from Harvard might not lay people out the way that Leach does at the next level, but he will display a versatility that Jim Caldwell can utilize.

    Even Mallette is in a good position.
    1.) He can play inside and out
    2.) Jacoby Jones has struggled in the past, when asked to be the #2 WR
    3.) Tandon Doss has struggled to stay healthy
    4.) There's a chance that Tommie Streeter may need an extra year to develop.

    His only real competition might end up being Deonte Thompson.
    He'll get to catch passes from Joe Flacco
    He'll get to play opposite Torrey Smith.
    "When questioned, the Elders explained that they were in search of magical powers. However, they're actually searching for the whereabouts of a certain ring. This ring is a legendary treasure that long ago was known to exist"




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    Re: Kiper praises Ravens draft

    The young man from Harvard did a pretty good imitation of Leach at the Sr Bowl pancaking a couple of guys on blocks.

    Scott Garceau said he gives Ravens insurance if they do cut Leach and it could possibly be this year.

    KJ is so athletic is was the point guard on his high school basketball team and is already the best blocking TE Ravens have. He scored 22 TDs at Harvard.

    Kiper said he's the best FB in the draft. I really don't know how he or
    Simon, the def player of year in Big 10 dropped so far.

    Leave it to Oz to pick them up on the cheap.




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    Re: Kiper praises Ravens draft

    Quote Originally Posted by AirFlacco View Post
    Kiper said he's the best FB in the draft. I really don't know how he or
    Simon, the def player of year in Big 10 dropped so far...
    IMO it is because many teams are hung-up on "name" players. You know, the guys we see in 1,000 mock drafts. The Ravens are interested in productive college players, no matter where they come from or how the "experts" rank them. Joe Hortiz and staff do a great job... Bc




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    Re: Kiper praises Ravens draft

    So Horwitz was the only guy in NFL who knew Simon was DPOY in Big Ten?

    Kiper was the only guy besides Oz who knew KJ was the best FB in college?

    But to answer my own question, the Bengals had
    the same need as Ravens for a Safety and passed on both Cyprien and Elam because
    they don't draft Safeties the last few years in the first round.

    They also needed a 4 down ILB like Arthur Brown and passed on him too while
    Ozzie agressively traded up to get in front of other teams that wanted him.

    That's how.




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    Re: Kiper praises Ravens draft

    Quote Originally Posted by AirFlacco View Post
    So Horwitz was the only guy in NFL who knew Simon was DPOY in Big Ten?
    Kiper was the only guy besides Oz who knew KJ was the best FB in college?
    Who is Horwitz? Ah well, no matter... my point was that the Ravens valued these two guys more than other teams did because of the information fed to Ozzie from scouting. The so-called experts very rarely even mentioned their names... Bc




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    Re: Kiper praises Ravens draft

    Quote Originally Posted by AirFlacco View Post
    So Horwitz was the only guy in NFL who knew Simon was DPOY in Big Ten?

    Kiper was the only guy besides Oz who knew KJ was the best FB in college?

    But to answer my own question, the Bengals had
    the same need as Ravens for a Safety and passed on both Cyprien and Elam because
    they don't draft Safeties the last few years in the first round.

    They also needed a 4 down ILB like Arthur Brown and passed on him too while
    Ozzie agressively traded up to get in front of other teams that wanted him.

    That's how.
    I'm a big OSU fan, so I have seen a good portion of Simon's games. While he may not be the most athletic OLB, he is the most determined. Definitely plays like a Raven and Urban Meyer said he is a guy to name your son after. One of the very few two-year captains at the Ohio State University.




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    Re: Kiper praises Ravens draft

    Good point. I meant the guy in the office whose name begins with an H.

    Same thing happened with Wagner who had lousy SR Bowl game and not so hot
    in his final year due to an injury.

    Ravens went by what they saw in his junior year.




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    Re: Kiper praises Ravens draft

    Quote Originally Posted by Iscull View Post
    I'm a big OSU fan, so I have seen a good portion of Simon's games. While he may not be the most athletic OLB, he is the most determined. Definitely plays like a Raven and Urban Meyer said he is a guy to name your son after. One of the very few two-year captains at the Ohio State University.
    Great insight. Thanks.

    Yea, Meyer didn't have him that long and said he'd name his son after him he loved him
    so much. Ravens have contacts with Meyer.

    The Ravens east coast and mid west scouts did damn well.




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    Re: Kiper praises Ravens draft

    Simon doesn't have a particular skill that jumps out at you. That is part of why he fell.
    "When questioned, the Elders explained that they were in search of magical powers. However, they're actually searching for the whereabouts of a certain ring. This ring is a legendary treasure that long ago was known to exist"




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