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Thread: WR Situation -- How bad is it?
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Re: WR Situation -- How bad is it?
Totally agree. I can't sit here and say we definitely have the answer as far as Boldin's replacement.
But ... we are transitioning to the full on version of Caldwell's offense.
No more of Cam's mystifying, pre-historic, nobody-can-get-open route combinations. Caldwell is going to give these guys every opportunity to work in actual space. Give anybody space and he's a better receiver.
Most teams don't require WRs to get open by either (a) outrunning the entire defense (Torrey) or (b) fighting DBs for jump balls (Boldin).
In 2013, the Ravens won't be requiring that either. The offense will have a better design, more guys will be wide open, and ordinary guys will look like players. Just like you see in New Orleans, Green Bay, and even New England.
It was pretty damn hard for WRs to look good in Cam's offense. And for those comparing with the 2002 group, Cam's offense was heaven compared to Cavanaugh's.
I believe Caldwell will make the group look better than it did in the past. Get the ball in Deonte's hands and let him run. Don't make him fight for it in traffic or high point it within 6 inches of the sideline; clear space underneath like a real NFL team would do and let him catch a 3 yard dump. That's what most teams do with speed guys. You don't see Percy Harvin having to engage in mortal combat to catch a pass. Wes Welker can't catch a cold if he isn't wide-ass open. But he has had OC's who play to his strengths, and made him a bazillionaire. Put Welker on a Cameron offense and he's a FedEx driver in 30 days.
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04-28-2013, 10:34 AM #63Regular 1st Stringer
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Re: WR Situation -- How bad is it?
The two drops you speak of would have been tough catches. The first was a five yard slant, that Joe threw 100 mph. Im sure if Joe had the throw again he would have thrown it low and away from the defender. The second pass was another tough catch, and even if he does catch it he would have probably been out of the end zone. In contrast the red zone pass to Anquan in the Super Bowl was a "drop". I say the same thing about all of our young receivers. Give them time to develop. This is an identical thread to the Kruger bashing a few years back.
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04-28-2013, 10:34 AM #64
Re: WR Situation -- How bad is it?
Welker can't catch a cold even when he is wide open. But when you get targetted 200 times a year you are bound to come down with 100. I predict Manning will hate having him on his team.
As far as our WR woes go I think the problem is our whole high character philosophy. Torrey is 1 in a million, it's prettt rare to find a high character guy at WR. They are almost always the "diva" of the team. We may have to sacrafice a bit of our ideals if we ever plan on drafting an elite guy at WR.
Or trade for Larry Fitzgerald. Just sayin'.
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04-28-2013, 11:10 AM #65Hyperbolic curmudgeometer
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Re: WR Situation -- How bad is it?
"You mean David Weeeeeeed?" Tom said bluntly...
(Those scratching their heads should go here & be edificated. :D)There wouldn't be so much hate if he didn't have one meltdown two years ago against Seattle. His career has been derailed mostly by injuries. If he's past them, I think he could be a decent #3.
I also think Jim Caldwell's offense can make average receivers look pretty good.
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04-28-2013, 12:21 PM #66
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I would have really liked to have seen the Ravens take Da'Rick Rogers late in the draft. The Bills signed him as an UFA. It will be interesting to see how he does. He failed three drug tests, but Tyrann Mathieu failed more than 10 drug tests. Why did Rogers go undrafted, but Mathieu ended up a third round pick? Sorry, but I am not a fan of any of the Ravens WRs other than Torrey Smith.
Bills sign troubled WR Da’Rick Rogers
“He’s the most polished of those three Tennessee receivers in my opinion in terms of route running and all that,” Bills scout Tom Roth said, via the team’s official website. “He reminds me physically of Eric Moulds, that body type. That’s what I thought when I saw him. A big, physical, muscular guy. Explosive. He had a 39-inch vertical. He ran a 4.48 at the Combine. He’s got all the physical stuff.”
As a sophomore in 2011, Rogers was All-SEC, catching 67 passes for 1,040 yards and nine touchdowns. But for whatever reason, the off-field concerns were significant enough to cause him to slide beyond the draft, in a way that didn’t impact Tyrann Mathieu’s status, despite a similar storyline.
http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com...darick-rogers/Last edited by Dirt1; 04-28-2013 at 12:26 PM.
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Re: WR Situation -- How bad is it?
Would love to see them pick up Julian Edelman to work the slot. If Doss can beat him out, great. If not, this WR corps needs some depth because injuries could really hurt them.
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Re: WR Situation -- How bad is it?
Supposedly Mathieu only failed one or two drug tests...before he said he failed at least 10.
I would say there is a strong case to be made that, in addition to disobeying other team rules, Rogers failed a lot more than 3 drug tests.
This also goes to show you how important team interviews are. Even though Mathieu did a lot of dumb shit at LSU and after being kicked out of LSU, he nailed his interviews. He was upfront about his issues. He was sincere in his desires to move on from that and not go back to those habits. He even said he would take a drug test every week if he had to.
The fact that Mathieu was drafted at all and Rogers wasn't tells me that Rogers wasn't entirely forthcoming during the interview process and may have tried to evade questions that the coaches, scouts, and GMs already knew the answers to.Disclaimer: The content posted is of my own opinion.
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