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    Quote Originally Posted by Spider Webb View Post
    . I really like Graham and Chykie and our other young CBs, but Slay in my opinion could potential start for many years to come. I felt that Graham and Chykie were getting picked on in the playoffs after teams got some tape.
    Agree on Brown. He was a liability down the stretch and missed some pivotal tackles. Disagree on Graham. I don't remember him getting picked on much at all throughout the stretch run. When there were important pass plays going against us over the final 4-5 regular season games and the postseason, it was usually against Pollard, Reed, or Brown...or occasionally Cary Williams.




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    Quinton Patton has a chance to be a good NFL receiver. There was a game he had against Texas A&M that was just amazing. He just took over the LA Tech offense. Very much like a Derrick Mason in his prime. I'd be very happy to get him in that spot.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JAB1985 View Post
    I have to read up on Jordan Mills more...

    Strengths
    Mills has tremendous size and power in his upper and lower body. Mills is always hustling, and doesn't stop working until the whistle blows. He shows good awareness on stunts and sells play action passes very well. Mills has a very good first step. Takes a powerful inside step to cut off defenders. Showcases this step and balance on seal and reach blocks. Coordinated, with a good pass set.
    Weaknesses
    Inconsistent in his aiming point. Will grab outside of the chest plate, which will result in holding calls. Mills isn't very quick off the snap, and can be beaten almost instantaneously because of this. Mills can also be found lunging at his blocks too often. Never played left tackle.
    NFL Comparison
    Michael Oher
    yeah not as thrilled with that one. Curious do you have him going before Faulk?
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    Re: My Final 7 Round (Ravens only) Mock Up

    Quote Originally Posted by PalladinInNC View Post
    Wicked,

    This is a great mock draft and I'd be pretty happy if it turned out this way. I just have a couple of questions for you:

    (1) Do you really think Khaseem Greene would fall to the end of the 3rd round (some mocks had him even being picked at the end of the 1st round)? And wouldn't Sio Moore or Bostic be better and more realistic values here (and I think they are younger too) if either is available?

    (2) Jordan Mills in the 4th rather than Chris Faulk. I know Faulk is recovering from a knee injury but if he is healthy, what is your rationale for Mills over Faulk as a LT?

    Other than those questions, I like this mock alot!
    First, thank you very much. I appreciate the feedback.

    To answer your questions:
    (1) I do think Khaseem Greene could fall a bit. Not because he isn't a good player, he is, but I am predicting a big run on receivers, RB's, and offensive linemen in the 2nd round. So, I think guys like Greene and Bostic could slide down into the 3rd round. Sio Moore, as per my board, was not available. I actually had him going earlier to the Titans, IIRC. However, Bostic was available. I like Bostic as a prospect, but I don't think he is anywhere near the athlete that Greene is. I'm actually pretty conservative when it comes to draft prospects, and Bostic would be more of my tendency, but I think Greene is just an exceptional player, leader, and athlete. He was Rutger's defense and that D was pretty damn good the last few years.

    (2) I like Chris Faulk, but after watching some LSU games with him at LT...he doesn't scream LT to me. Honestly, Jordan Mills doesn't exactly scream LT to me either, but I think Mills is lighter on his feet than Faulk and I really REALLY like the aggressiveness Mills brings to the table. That guy is just flat out mean. I want that kind of mentality on the Ravens OL because KO is mean, Yanda is mean, Oher has some mean streak to him, and even Gino Gradkowski is pretty feisty. I want my OL to be nasty and tough as nails. I think Mills fits that bill more than Faulk.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SeeBass View Post
    Nice job. In the end the Ravens have enough picks that they could move up if needed. Oz has a track record of dealing.

    Guys I like with the first pick are Allen and Hopkins. Not sure I would spend that pick on a LB or S.

    I like Fragel and Quessenberry.

    I like the idea of taking a flyer on Mauti of PSU.

    In the end it is about getting value for your picks and Ozzie and his staff have been good at doing that. This year IMO the stakes are higher because they need 2-3 guys to have a major impact this season.
    I actually don't know if Fragel will be drafted. He is predominately a RT and there are a lot of RT prospects (or LT prospects who would be better on the right side) in this draft.

    I like Quessenberry too.
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    Re: My Final 7 Round (Ravens only) Mock Up

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    I'm making my final 7 round mock draft next Sunday... Bc
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    Lol. I think you are gonna nail it Bc


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    Quote Originally Posted by LukeDaniel View Post
    Agree on Brown. He was a liability down the stretch and missed some pivotal tackles. Disagree on Graham. I don't remember him getting picked on much at all throughout the stretch run. When there were important pass plays going against us over the final 4-5 regular season games and the postseason, it was usually against Pollard, Reed, or Brown...or occasionally Cary Williams.
    Brown had a handful of bad plays that led to him being benched, but IMO that guy showed more than a lot of other recent draft picks. Especially considering Chykie was drafted as a depth ST's guy.

    I think Brown could end up as a decent starter.

    I agree with you about Corey Graham. He was clutch. He played a lot of nickel too, which is no easy task.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JAB1985 View Post
    yeah not as thrilled with that one. Curious do you have him going before Faulk?
    Don't look at their comparison and dismiss him. I think Michael Oher is a bad comparison. Oher is not a very good run blocker and that is one skill that Mills definitely does not lack.

    I actually think Mills compares much more favorably to KO over Oher.

    And yes, I do have Mills going before Faulk. I think Faulk will drop quite a bit. Injury causing him to not be able to work out combined with questions surrounding where exactly to play him may actually cause Faulk to go undrafted. Seriously.

    Additionally, Faulk is a big guy, but he isn't in very good shape.


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    I mean, you can clearly tell that Mills is a SOLID 310-315lbs. Faulk, on the other hand, is a rather pudgy 330lbs. I know that body structure isn't THAT big of a deal for NFL offensive linemen, but I like Mills a lot more than Faulk at this point. I like his athleticism, his demeanor, and I like that he hits the gym. 310-315lbs with very little gut "overhang" is pretty impressive. Plus, Mills has 34+" arms, which is something to look for in a LT prospect.
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    wickedsolo :
    Round 1 - Jonathan Cyprien, SS, Florida International (6'1" 218lbs). I firmly believe that if the Ravens do not trade down, then they will take the best overall SS, DT, or LB. Everything I've watched on Cyprien has really changed my mind about the kid. I think the way he plays safety will fit in well with the evolution of the NFL. He is a big hitter, but he wraps up, so I don't see him drawing a lot of flags. I also don't see him as a big time head-hunter. I like that he can play around the line of scrimmage, like Pollard, but unlike Pollard, Cyprien can play really well in space. He has nice coverage skills and decent hands for a safety.

    Round 2 - Quinton Patton, WR, Louisiana Tech (6'1" 210lbs). Patton is an exceptional route runner with great hands, long arms, and deceptive speed. He isn't a burner, but he does a really nice job separating from defensive backs through precise route running and intelligent play. Everyone keeps saying the Ravens need to "replace Boldin". That line of thinking is what needs replaced, quite frankly. The Ravens just need another receiver, period. Patton can play the slot, but he could also legitimately compete for the Z receiver spot and he is one of the best players available at the end of round 2. I think he compares heavily to Reggie Wayne and Jim Caldwell has experience with a receiver of that caliber.

    Round 3 - Khaseem Greene, LB, Rutgers (6'1" 243lbs). I think Greene is one of the most underrated players in this draft. He is a converted safety, so he does a really nice job in space and in coverage. I love the way this guy accelerates and puts his shoulder into the ball carrier. I also think he has enough speed and quickness to be an effective blitzing linebacker. I think he'd be a nice compliment to the other inside linebackers on the roster.

    REPLY : Picking @ #32, barring trades, I'd be thrilled with these three choices. I think your mock is quite realistic, and give it a ... Bc




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    Quote Originally Posted by BcRaven View Post
    wickedsolo :
    Round 1 - Jonathan Cyprien, SS, Florida International (6'1" 218lbs). I firmly believe that if the Ravens do not trade down, then they will take the best overall SS, DT, or LB. Everything I've watched on Cyprien has really changed my mind about the kid. I think the way he plays safety will fit in well with the evolution of the NFL. He is a big hitter, but he wraps up, so I don't see him drawing a lot of flags. I also don't see him as a big time head-hunter. I like that he can play around the line of scrimmage, like Pollard, but unlike Pollard, Cyprien can play really well in space. He has nice coverage skills and decent hands for a safety.

    Round 2 - Quinton Patton, WR, Louisiana Tech (6'1" 210lbs). Patton is an exceptional route runner with great hands, long arms, and deceptive speed. He isn't a burner, but he does a really nice job separating from defensive backs through precise route running and intelligent play. Everyone keeps saying the Ravens need to "replace Boldin". That line of thinking is what needs replaced, quite frankly. The Ravens just need another receiver, period. Patton can play the slot, but he could also legitimately compete for the Z receiver spot and he is one of the best players available at the end of round 2. I think he compares heavily to Reggie Wayne and Jim Caldwell has experience with a receiver of that caliber.

    Round 3 - Khaseem Greene, LB, Rutgers (6'1" 243lbs). I think Greene is one of the most underrated players in this draft. He is a converted safety, so he does a really nice job in space and in coverage. I love the way this guy accelerates and puts his shoulder into the ball carrier. I also think he has enough speed and quickness to be an effective blitzing linebacker. I think he'd be a nice compliment to the other inside linebackers on the roster.

    REPLY : Picking @ #32, barring trades, I'd be thrilled with these three choices. I think your mock is quite realistic, and give it a ... Bc
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    Great effort. I enjoyed it and learned alot.
    Going one step further- I am convinced the Ravens need a third QB to potentially develop from the draft. Do you see a UDFA target out there?
    The reason I say so is that I think we were extremely fortunate Joe was healthy all of last year, and I'm not convinced that Tyrod can do enough to win us a game in an emergency situation.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark&Stormy View Post
    Great effort. I enjoyed it and learned alot.
    Going one step further- I am convinced the Ravens need a third QB to potentially develop from the draft. Do you see a UDFA target out there?
    The reason I say so is that I think we were extremely fortunate Joe was healthy all of last year, and I'm not convinced that Tyrod can do enough to win us a game in an emergency situation.
    I think there will be a few. The Ravens also recently signed Caleb Hanie. While he isnt amazing, he isnt a terrible back up and will at least push Tyrod.

    I actually wouldnt mind seeing Jordan Rodgers out of Vanderbilt. He is Aaron Rodgers brother. Decent player. I also like Alex Carder out of Western Michigan.

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    Re: My Final 7 Round (Ravens only) Mock Up

    Smarts X Effort + Love = !&%#@! good mock. Thank you!

    Two comments:

    1) I like loading up on LBs (three of them), but I hope we can do better at LT (just one, and a long shot). I do like getting a C, though.

    2) Ozzie must have some Oriental blood -- totally inscrutable. In round 1 he could go LB, LT, S, CB, WR, NT. Or trade down.




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    Quote Originally Posted by GOTA View Post
    Quinton Patton has a chance to be a good NFL receiver. There was a game he had against Texas A&M that was just amazing. He just took over the LA Tech offense. Very much like a Derrick Mason in his prime. I'd be very happy to get him in that spot.
    Thats a very good comparison GOTA, he actually REALLY looks like Mason on tape, never thought of that one, smooth route runner, probably a little bigger than Mason.




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    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    Don't look at their comparison and dismiss him. I think Michael Oher is a bad comparison. Oher is not a very good run blocker and that is one skill that Mills definitely does not lack.

    I actually think Mills compares much more favorably to KO over Oher.

    And yes, I do have Mills going before Faulk. I think Faulk will drop quite a bit. Injury causing him to not be able to work out combined with questions surrounding where exactly to play him may actually cause Faulk to go undrafted. Seriously.

    Additionally, Faulk is a big guy, but he isn't in very good shape.


    Jordan Mills


    I mean, you can clearly tell that Mills is a SOLID 310-315lbs. Faulk, on the other hand, is a rather pudgy 330lbs. I know that body structure isn't THAT big of a deal for NFL offensive linemen, but I like Mills a lot more than Faulk at this point. I like his athleticism, his demeanor, and I like that he hits the gym. 310-315lbs with very little gut "overhang" is pretty impressive. Plus, Mills has 34+" arms, which is something to look for in a LT prospect.
    all good points, i was more poking fun. Really the strengths/weaknesses didnt really sound like Oher. the things that stood out the most to me were "never played LT" and from what youre saying "hes a better run blocker than Oher" which is Ohers better ability, imo, but putting the two together means who's playing LT between the two? Well see, probably the position im most excited to see addressed in the draft. I think theres some decent mid-late round guys that can actually be a long term solution there despite the odds.

    Id probably be happy with Faulk going UDFA, good chance he ends up here in that scenario. I dont see it though. I like that Mills is solid and athletic, but i like the tape and pedigree with Faulk. Im sure some team will make that call with Faulk.
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