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    Quote Originally Posted by NC Raven View Post
    If we get Marquess Wilson at the end of the 5th round, I will celebrate!

    Agree on Cyprien, I've come around on the idea of him lately too. Different reports say different things about his tackling.

    They said the same thing about Jimmy Smith's tackling. It was his only weakness but he's been great on special teams and won the Denver playoff game with one of the greatest open field tackles vs a Holliday who returned 2 TDs vs us in that same game.

    Jimmy pinned him inside the 5 and forced Corey's Graham's interception to win the game.

    So you never know about these reports.

    I've been pimping Cyprien for two weeks now.

    Ozzie will have to use some picks to trade up for Patton in the 2d round.

    McShay had Ravens drafting him in the first.




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    Quote Originally Posted by RavenScallywag View Post
    I've been checking WalterFootball daily to browse mocks. They updated today and have us taking Elam in Round 1, Darius Slay in Round 2. I wasn't thrilled with Slay, so I looked at the next few picks in round 3, and I see that John Jenkins and Jesse Williams both go about 12 picks after our 2nd rounder. Between those two and Barrett Jones and David Bakhtiari, that's where I'd go with our 2nd, assuming we couldn't trade down a few spots.
    I like Walter Football alot and use it quite regularly, but I think Slay at 62 is very optimistic. I think it's about 40/60 he goes in the first round and about 75/25 that he's off the board by pick 50. The guy is extremely fast and plays a position of need for all 32 teams.




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    Quote Originally Posted by LukeDaniel View Post
    I like Walter Football alot and use it quite regularly, but I think Slay at 62 is very optimistic. I think it's about 40/60 he goes in the first round and about 75/25 that he's off the board by pick 50. The guy is extremely fast and plays a position of need for all 32 teams.
    Yea I agree 100% with your Slay reasoning. Slay at 62 would be a STEAL. I really like Graham and Chykie and our other young CBs, but Slay in my opinion could potential start for many years to come. I felt that Graham and Chykie were getting picked on in the playoffs after teams got some tape.

    I also, like Walter Football a lot, but there latest mock doesn't seem that realistic. If Geno Smith, EJ Manuel, and 4 OTs are on the board at 32...we're trading down no question about it.




  4. Re: My Final 7 Round (Ravens only) Mock Up

    Nice job, Wicked. Any thoughts of the Ravens being interested in Tyrann Mathieu? Would love to pick him up, especially if we used one of the comp picks to draft him.




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    I'm not all that high on Mathieu, he's really going to struggle on the field at times because of his size (and I'm not even going to talk about his past drug addiction, which I don't even care about because its weed). Go watch the 2011 tape when he was matched up against Da'rick Rogers, he got destroyed.




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    As for the mock, I rarely disagree with Wicked on this sort of thing, and once again, he posts a good and realistic mock draft that will hopefully play out that way come draft day.




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    Re: My Final 7 Round (Ravens only) Mock Up

    Quote Originally Posted by MD Boy View Post
    Nice job, Wicked. Any thoughts of the Ravens being interested in Tyrann Mathieu? Would love to pick him up, especially if we used one of the comp picks to draft him.
    Quote Originally Posted by leachisabeast View Post
    I'm not all that high on Mathieu, he's really going to struggle on the field at times because of his size (and I'm not even going to talk about his past drug addiction, which I don't even care about because its weed). Go watch the 2011 tape when he was matched up against Da'rick Rogers, he got destroyed.
    I agree Leach.

    I think Mathieu has some big play capabilities, but I wouldn't try to move around for this guy. There are other corners who are better than Mathieu IMO.
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    Thanks Leach!
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    Good work, Wicked. I think this is pretty solid.

    Round 1 - Jonathan Cyprien, SS
    I could definitely dig this. Cyprien or Eifert would send me to bed as a happy fan on Thursday night.

    Round 2 - Quinton Patton, WR
    "My guy" originally, so I would be crazed to have him onboard. He won't run away from too many guys, but he will get open and he will make the catch. Not sure he lasts until #62 though. I'm going to lose a remote and some drywall, if he gets snatched just ahead of us.

    Round 3 - Khaseem Greene, LB
    I've cooled on Greene, but getting him in the 3rd would be great value. May need to trade up 10-12 slots, I'm thinking.

    Round 4 - Jordan Mills, OT
    Believe it or not, Oher at LT and RT, was a far worse run blocker than pass protector. Mills wouldn't have that problem, but his feet, as you point out, concern me. Generally, we draft OLmen reasonably well, so if Ozzie takes Mills (or whomever as a "project OT") then I'd be okay with it.

    Round 4 (Comp Pick) - Trevardo Williams, LB
    Good value. Not sure what we're going to get from McAdoo and Hamilton, and like CBs, you can never have enough pass rushers IMO.

    Round 5 - Kevin Reddick, LB
    For some reason, since October, I've always seen Reddick as a Raven, but I would love Steve Beauharnais here. I like his pass coverage ability and instincts. I would imagine him and Greene (as a Joker/Hybrid guy) would work well together since they know and understand each other's tendencies and styles of play.

    Round 5 (Comp) - Marquess Wilson, WR
    There's is value in looking to eventually "replace" JJ12's straight-line speed; and Wilson has some nice flashes on tape, but I am 100% vested into drafting a WR that can get separation at the snap of the football, and I don't see that in Wilson. In your mock, Patton is that guy, but I would pursue another...Chad Bumphis or TJ Moe would be my choices here.
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    Re: My Final 7 Round (Ravens only) Mock Up

    I'd be happy with Cyprien at 32.




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    Quote Originally Posted by wickedsolo View Post
    Round 1 - Jonathan Cyprien, SS, Florida International (6'1" 218lbs). I firmly believe that if the Ravens do not trade down, then they will take the best overall SS, DT, or LB. Everything I've watched on Cyprien has really changed my mind about the kid. I think the way he plays safety will fit in well with the evolution of the NFL. He is a big hitter, but he wraps up, so I don't see him drawing a lot of flags. I also don't see him as a big time head-hunter. I like that he can play around the line of scrimmage, like Pollard, but unlike Pollard, Cyprien can play really well in space. He has nice coverage skills and decent hands for a safety.

    Other possibilities for round 1: Arthur Brown, Jessie Williams, or Matt Elam.

    Round 2 - Quinton Patton, WR, Louisiana Tech (6'1" 210lbs). Patton is an exceptional route runner with great hands, long arms, and deceptive speed. He isn't a burner, but he does a really nice job separating from defensive backs through precise route running and intelligent play. Everyone keeps saying the Ravens need to "replace Boldin". That line of thinking is what needs replaced, quite frankly. The Ravens just need another receiver, period. Patton can play the slot, but he could also legitimately compete for the Z receiver spot and he is one of the best players available at the end of round 2. I think he compares heavily to Reggie Wayne and Jim Caldwell has experience with a receiver of that caliber.

    Round 3 - Khaseem Greene, LB, Rutgers (6'1" 243lbs). I think Greene is one of the most underrated players in this draft. He is a converted safety, so he does a really nice job in space and in coverage. I love the way this guy accelerates and puts his shoulder into the ball carrier. I also think he has enough speed and quickness to be an effective blitzing linebacker. I think he'd be a nice compliment to the other inside linebackers on the roster.

    Round 4 - Jordan Mills, OT, Louisiana Tech (6'5" 315lbs). Mills has a tendency to play a little heavy-footed every now and then, but he did a nice job at the Senior Bowl in 1-on-1 drills. He showed nice quickness and recovery against speed rushers, which is what some were concerned with. I think he is someone that could play multiple positions (LT, RT, LG, and RG) on the offensive line and possibly even compete to start his rookie year at either LG or LT.

    Round 4 (Comp Pick) - Trevardo Williams, LB, UCONN (6'1" 241lbs). Williams was really impressive to me all year long. This guy is the textbook definition of explosive. I think he needs some refinement as an every-down linebacker, but as a situational pass rusher I think he'd be a perfect fit for what the Ravens like to do. The reality is that Suggs has been in the league for a decade, has suffered two big injuries in the same year, and is going to be expensive in the final years of his current deal. With the way the Ravens have operated recently, there is a good chance that Suggs may not be with the Ravens in the near future. The Ravens like having depth and Trevardo Williams would be an excellent depth pass-rusher.

    Round 5 - Kevin Reddick, LB, UNC (6'2" 245lbs). There is a lot of reporting linking Reddick with the Ravens as a mid round pick and I completely agree. It does make sense. Reddick has a lot of upside, but it doesn't seem like he has really recognized and lived up to that potential yet. As a mid round pick though, Reddick is great value and low risk. If he ends up only being a depth/ST's linebacker, then oh well. Not a big investment and not a big loss. Still, more competition for Rolando McClain, Josh Bynes, and Albert McClellan is a good thing for Baltimore.

    Round 5 (Comp) - Marquess Wilson, WR, Washington St (6'3" 195lbs). I think this is the type of pick you make for the future. Wilson's size/speed combo is very desirable and his ability to "high-point" passes is really nice. He has excellent body control and for a bigger receiver his routes aren't too bad. At 195lbs though, I think the Ravens would like to see him bulk up into the 200's while not losing much speed. The Ravens have some nice young receivers, but competition ensures the best players make the roster and I think Wilson could end up being a better than some of the other guys currently on the roster. He could be the steal of the draft.

    Round 6 (From San Fran) - Sanders Commings, CB, Georgia (6' 215lbs). Commings was pretty impressive at the combine. He showed a lot more speed than many thought he had, but I still think his footwork says "Safety" to me rather than cornerback. I could be wrong, but I still think he would have a lot of value to Baltimore as a CB who can play safety. Even though the Ravens signed Michael Huff, I still think they'll take advantage of this draft to build out their secondary a little more.

    Round 6 - Braxston Cave, OC, Notre Dame (6'3" 300lbs). Cave isn't a flashy player, but he is a hard worker and that is something that John Harbaugh looks for in a player. He is also one of the strongest guys in this draft. I don't think he'd be better than Gino Gradkowski, but the Ravens definitely need some depth at center.

    Round 6 (Comp) - Lavar Edwards, DT, LSU (6'4" 279lbs). Ozzie flat out said that they want to get better in the middle of their defense. I think they definitely addressed that via free agency, but Edwards is good value here and could be a good fit as a 5-technique defensive tackle.

    Round 7 - Matt Furstenburg, TE, Maryland (6'3" 245lbs). Furstenburg is a lot more athletic than many scouts gave him credit for. He could be a nice receiving option out of the slot, but he is also a pretty good blocker as well. The Ravens will likely keep Dennis Pitta, but I don't see them keeping Ed Dickson. They need TE depth.

    Round 7 (Comp) - Rod Sweeting, CB, Georgia Tech (5'11" 189lbs). Solid corner, nice ability when playing the run, and has enough speed and fluidity to turn and round with receivers. He plays a lot bigger than what he is, which is something I like. You can never have enough corners in today's NFL.
    Wicked,

    This is a great mock draft and I'd be pretty happy if it turned out this way. I just have a couple of questions for you:

    (1) Do you really think Khaseem Greene would fall to the end of the 3rd round (some mocks had him even being picked at the end of the 1st round)? And wouldn't Sio Moore or Bostic be better and more realistic values here (and I think they are younger too) if either is available?

    (2) Jordan Mills in the 4th rather than Chris Faulk. I know Faulk is recovering from a knee injury but if he is healthy, what is your rationale for Mills over Faulk as a LT?

    Other than those questions, I like this mock alot!




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    Nice job. In the end the Ravens have enough picks that they could move up if needed. Oz has a track record of dealing.

    Guys I like with the first pick are Allen and Hopkins. Not sure I would spend that pick on a LB or S.

    I like Fragel and Quessenberry.

    I like the idea of taking a flyer on Mauti of PSU.

    In the end it is about getting value for your picks and Ozzie and his staff have been good at doing that. This year IMO the stakes are higher because they need 2-3 guys to have a major impact this season.




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    I like it. I have to read up on Jordan Mills more but thats basically the same spot i have them taking a T or some type.
    -JAB




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    I'm making my final 7 round mock draft next Sunday... Bc




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    I'm making my final 7 round mock draft next Sunday... Bc
    Lol. I think you are gonna nail it Bc


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